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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I am not a follower of John Calvin, but you are not teaching the same doctrine that Christ taught.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Disobedient children of God, when they are walking in the flesh, have lost their fellowship with God, but not their inheritance of heaven. When God "pricks" their new heart of flesh, and they repent, they are delivered (saved) from the results of their sin.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    God foresaw that no one would seek him, no, not one (Psalms 53:1-3). God choose his elect from among those who did not seek him and left the others to their own destruction. All of his elect, whom Christ died for, are included in his church, his kingdom, his bride. His church consists of two...
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    Does the sovereignty of God nullify the grace of God?

    We were all born into this world by natural birth children of wrath, even as others, and had no trust in spiritual things, until we were born spiritually (Eph 2:1-5) Trusting in spiritual things is a product of being born again by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    So, are you claiming that Rev 17:8 is not true?
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Matt 10:24 among many others.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    He knew them all before he formed the world, and even wrote their names in the book of life (Rev 17:8)
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I know what it does not say, and that is God does not know a man until a certain time in his life, and the other statements that you have made that you think Galatians supports. Lets not only stick with scripture, lets also interpret them right.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    You are exactly right. Thanks for keeping me in line. My wife says that I can concentrate on one subject at a time, and she is correct, but by doing that, at the end I feel that I have researched it completely.
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    Does the sovereignty of God nullify the grace of God?

    do you not believe that, If you are a teacher of the truth of God's word, you should be teaching the lost sheep of the house of Israel to repent and come unto a knowledge of the truth? Instead of condemning him to hell.
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    Does the sovereignty of God nullify the grace of God?

    When you have been brought up from the teaching of a false doctrine it becomes very hard to forsake it I was not revealed the knowledge of Christ's doctrine until I was 62 years old and am now 89. All I am asking is for you to consider all other scriptures that pertaining to the subject of...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Magenta, correct me if I am wrong, but I understand the scriptures to teach that God gave mankind the freedom to choose the way he wants to live his live here on earth and all mankind choose not to seek him (Psalms 53:1-3) Don't we become a slave to God after we are born spiritually?
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    God knew his elected children before he formed the world. His children, get to know him gradually after they have been born again as new born babes in Christ. They are first fed the milk of the word, and as they mature they gain more and more knowledge. If we are student's of the word, we...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    The adoption is already in progress. The adoption process goes as follows; 1. The Father chooses the child, not the child choosing the Father. 2. The price must be paid, which was paid on the cross. 3. The final phase of the adoption is when the Father takes his chosen children home.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Our understanding of the scriptures is based upon our interpretation of them. If all of the scriptures do not harmonize with the way we interpret them, then our interpretation of them is incorrect. Your interpretation does not harmonize with all of the scriptures. yes, God does have...
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    Why free will?

    When a person is born again. while he was yet dead spiritually (unable to understand things of the Spirit)God put the Holy Spirit within him, giving him the imputed righteousness of Christ. The only righteousness that the natural man had before he was quickened to a spiritual life was as...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    If the scripture was only to point out the things that are in the world, John would not have stated "Love not the world".
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    Does the sovereignty of God nullify the grace of God?

    I think that we both are serving the same God, as well as most on this forum. The fact that you claim to be in agreement with most on this forum, as interpreting Romans one correctly, should open your eyes to the fact that the scriptures teach that very few have been given the knowledge of...
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    Why free will?

    The natural man, as described in 1 Cor 2:14, has the free will to choose, but he will never choose the things of the Spirit, because he doesn't understand them, thinking them to be foolishness.