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  1. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    All the passages you cited? Speak of people who had been drawn successfully. Romans 1:18-25 reveals those who were drawn, but refused the drawing. Here is vs 21-15. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile, and...
  2. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    It does not say that inheriting the sin of our father is like Adam's sin. You are not going to jail because your grandfather robbed a bank. That would be a sin of your fathers... But, you are a sinner, because all men are sinners by the inherited fallen nature originating with Adam's fall. When...
  3. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    There is a simple reason we are all born condemned. Our human father was Adam. Adam passed down the sin nature that is in our flesh, which he acquired when he fell. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have...
  4. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    The way the calvinists keep driving home their issue about we were dead, and unable to be made able by God to believe? That God must regenerate men first before we can believe? Is a new angle on making God out to be Dr. Frankenstein.
  5. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    You have proven what kind of person you are..... That is what I have been after. Thank you.
  6. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    Jesus taught Jews how Jews should have been living under the Law. They called him "Rabbi." The Gospels are so beautiful in what it teaches, we too easily miss that what Jesus taught was to Israel, and about how the Jews should have been living at that time! It was the Apostle Paul that later...
  7. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    Rufus? Please let the Holy Spirit take over and guide you into all truth? Put down your club.
  8. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    Very interesting.... I'm going to have to chew on that one for a while. ........
  9. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    Calvinism presents a *forced* gift.
  10. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    Your's is not a free gift. Its a baffling gift the way you have it.
  11. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    WEAR EM OUT RUFUS! STICK TO YOUR FALSE DOCTRINE TILL YOU WEAR EM OUT! ;) ...... ever ask who's cheering you on? ..............
  12. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    I only mocked your idea, Rufus. Ohhh, now? Should we christen you..........? "Pope Rufus?" Please.. Stop equating yourself to God. You simply don't understand salvation by grace. Calvinism tells you what you naturally 'want to believe.' TULIP comforts you in knowing how much...
  13. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    May I take five giant steps forward? ;) It's fun being a kid acting like an adult.
  14. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    Calvinists do not see the 'same way' in the same way... They like to argue and stay stuck on that level. Never growing much beyond that. And, it's so easy to argue about what they do not understand... But, think they do. God sovereignly had me say that.
  15. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    They are the only ones who could be saved the right way....
  16. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    Was that a question I should answer? How can I know that it was a question?
  17. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    Any other rule?
  18. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    If what you are saying is accurate and true? Then? Only those who find themselves following Calvinism have been saved.
  19. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    How come, after responding to a post of yours, you say people keep not answering your questions.... so often?
  20. Genez

    Understanding God’s election

    Dead? Like in..... "But the widow who lives for pleasure is dead even while she lives." 1 Tim 5:6 That warning was was written to the church. To believers. Why was she dead? What kind of death, though saved? ..............