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    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    The devil do not want go to eternal fire alone, than he lie and say no eternal punishment for human, expect more human deceived and go with him to hell, un bare problem in your life? kill your self no eternal punishment, only cease to exist
  2. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    You accuse Jesus contradict Himself that verse not contradict other
  3. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    i do, only 2 group for all nation, sheep and goat all goat to eternal punishment not 3 group
  4. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    If you do all of those verses above, you will know that truth, and you know the theory of cease to exist is lie
  5. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    I have SDA friend and after some talk about why he do not believe eternal torment for unsaved he tell me the reason is God is love, impossible for Him do such thing eternal torment only for satan and false prophet my question to him is God is love why you believe He do eternal torment to...
  6. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    i think before you judge other as pride or ignorance, you have to tell us what is your definition of pride, and tell us why our attitude met the qualification to be call pride from our side, we may think you have be brain wash with SDA doctrine and we try to love you, to depend on only bible...
  7. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Perish not always mean cease to exist destroy not always mean cease to exist quote As verbs the difference between damage and destroy is that damage is to impair the soundness, goodness, or value of; to harm or cause destruction while destroy is to damage beyond use or repair end quote...
  8. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    definition of perish quote suffer death, typically in a violent, sudden, or untimely way. "a great part of his army perished of hunger and disease" end quote
  9. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    those people want physical death to avoid physical pain they never experience physical death and think like you, they think death is cease to exist they need to read Matt 25 wher Jesus, the owner of universe only separate all nation into goat and sheep eternal punishment or eternal live
  10. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    In Matt 25 Jesus separate all nation Only 2 group, not 3 goat, and sheep all goat go into eternal punishment all sheep go to eternal live no group cease to exist
  11. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    satan not only exist on GT, worship satan not only happen on GT In my country there is an old temple, where some people pray for blessing, if they want to be rich, their make a contract with the devil all unbeliever beast follower beast is satan all unbeliever follow satan so, all...
  12. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Why make parable contradict real incident?
  13. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Temporary Eternal fire?? if so just say it, “temporary fire” to fit your doctrine you call temporary eternal, odd
  14. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    I know it is parable but parable not contradict real incident
  15. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    rich man is not fp, nor beast why go to hell and not gone
  16. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Rich man go to hell because unbeliever lazarus go to heaven because believer if you put to hell and gone, no time to talk to Abraham
  17. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Parable is not contradict the real incident