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That’s not what Paul is implying and ultimately God, who was the one who inspired Paul’s words was talking about.

Keeping the faith and not falling away isn’t about works but holding on to the faith ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭3:14‬ ‭ For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end. The Bible paints another picture that indeed the devil does try to cause someone...

:unsure: What gentiles do you think Paul wrote to and what faith do you think he wanted them to keep? Do you think unbelievers read Romans and see that and say...Paul doesn’t care if I’m saved...he wants me to keep whatever faith I have? Why would Paul want the Jews to keep their faith? Wasn’t...

So you think that Paul is just talking to the Jews and telling them to keep their faith? Why would he do that?

That particular passage was to the saved...Paul tells them to stand by their faith and not be cut off like the Jews. If its not the Christian he is addressing...what faith could Paul be talking about?

So, he’s talking to un saved gentiles? He said they were broken off for their unbelief but you stand by your faith. How is he talking to the unsaved? What faith do you think he’s talking about here? No...its not like that in the New Testament...some obeyed and most didn’t....Is that what...

If you don’t mind me asking...why didn’t you get married?

Answer his questions and do away with what you think are his presumptions.

I meant what I said in response to your post...

I think many of the verses are promises of eternal life...not promises that once you are saved you are always saved....because otherwise we wouldn‘t have verses that say the opposite. What do you do about verses like these...ignore them? Romans‬ ‭11:20-22‬ ‭ Quite right, they were broken off...

Lol!

‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭4:1‬ ‭ But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons.

As a moderator...should you be name calling?

Ya I hate John being used as the raptured church when he went there to tell us what God wanted us to know. I thought the song was a praise song to God not that those people were the raptured...because the raptured don’t show up until later. Pre trib is a false and deceitful doctrine of demons imo.

For one thing we aren’t going to find the perfect candidate who’s a believer so we kinda are stuck with the lesser of two evils. Myself..I thought some of the things trump said were downright funny and bold and then other things wish he wouldn’t have said which didn’t come out as funny or bold...

What politician is without sin I wonder? However...it does seem that voting for people you know have the opposite view as our savior would be wrong..

I’m not sure where those people were from as I just copied the image...these people however are from Ireland and they have signs as well.. So are these Argentinians..who have their own signs but sorry I can’t read them...

Seems to me that you have to keep yourself in the faith because that’s what is saving you. ‭‭2 Corinthians 13:5-6‬ Examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test? But I trust that you will realize that we ourselves...