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Making a choice and surrendering to choice is the same thing. We must harmonize the scriptures, if we are to understand the truth. The natural man, according to 1 Cor 2:14, will not, and indeed, can not choice anything of a spiritual nature until he has been born again spiritually (Eph 1-5).

Choosing God is a choice that only those who have been born again spiritually will make. The natural man, according to 1 Cor 2:14 will not, and indeed, can not choose spiritual things, thinking them to be foolishness. Salvation, in your first theory, according to Strong's concordance, means...

I believe the scriptures teach that there are far more of the elect than those who are not (Hosea 1:10) Isaiah 10::22).(Heb 11:12-16) Jacob, who is surnamed Israel represents "spiritual Israel" (Isaiah 45:4) The scriptures do teach that it is God's choice, not mankind's choice, who is to be...

Acts 20:21, Paul is testifying to the elders of the church at Ephesus (Acts 20:17) telling them that repentance is necessary to keep them in good fellowship with God. The natural man, before he has been born again, spiritually, will not, and indeed, can not, repent of breaking one of God's...

Romans 9:6 explains to us that some of the nation of Israel, are not a part of spiritual Israel/Jacob.

Very few people agree with me. You are one of those that do. It is a mystery to most who have been blinded to see the truth, and they will never understand the truths, of Christ's doctrine, unless the Holy Spirit, within them, reveals it to them.

Eternal deliverance for only those that the Father called, and gave to his Son, was accomplished on the cross, with Jesus's promise that he would lose none of them, but will raise them up at the last day. (John 6:37-39). God says those that his Son redeemed, that their sins would as far away...

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My apologies, Heb 14:6 should have been 12:6-8. For whom the Lord loveth, he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receveth, if ye endure chastening, God desleth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the Father chasteneth not? but if ye be without chastisement, whereof all (of...

Are these just your thoughts, or do you have scripture for them?

Yes, God judges his born again elect children as they sojourn here on earth, (Heb 14:6_ and they will not face judgement at the last day, and will not experience the second death (Rev 20:14-15) (Matt 25:32-41) God only judges his elect as they sojourn here on earth, and he does not judge the...

If you want someone to pay attention to your stand that you believe that Gog wants everyone to be saved, you will have to give the particular verses that relates that.

Those that comprise Jacob, surnamed Israel, and the remnant of Israel both have the promise of an eternal inheritance, because the disobedient Israel/Jacob will be saved (delivered eternally.).

Just because those who have been born again of the Spirit, they do not get rid of their fleshly nature, whose righteousness is as filthy rags. and they, at times, turn away from God and lust after the things of the world, and will experience indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, until...

The Israel under consideration, in these scriptures, is not the nation of Israel, but is spiritual Israel which is Jacob surnamed Israel that includes people from every nation (Rev 5:9).

That is right those in Rev 5:9 will not taste of the second death, (because they are spiritual Israel) as do those that had no part in the first resurrection.

I am saying that the natural man, as described in 1 Cor 2:14, will not, and indeed, cannot accept anything of a spiritual nature. A person has to be born again spiritually before he will accept Jesus or his Father, God.

Jacob has been surnamed Israel, which is not the nation of Israel, (Rom 9:6) but is spiritual Israel which includes every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation (Rev 5:9).

The necessity of preaching the truth of the gospel, in which only the remnant of the household of Jacob surnamed Israel (Isaiah 45:4) have been revealed the knowledge, and have been told to preach unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel/Jacob of whom God has blinded their eyes to the...

Wrong. That is promoting eternal salvation (deliverance) by a person's good works. Eph 2:8-10, For by grace are ye (those he has quickened, verse 1 )saved=delivered from being dead in trespasses and sins, through faith, (of Jesus Christ - Gal 2:16) and that not of yourselves; it is a gift of...