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  1. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    No, sorry brother but you are saved right now because God saved you. You had nothing to do with saving yourself and have no hand in keeping yourself saved. None. God gets ALL the glory and credit, you get none. You're not saved because of your trust, you are saved by His grace. Sorry if this...
  2. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    Okay...... Well nothing you said changes the FACT that if you believe salvation can be lost then you are trusting in your works (or ability to obey) to save you. Period and there's no way around it. I really don't see how your reply even has anything at all to do with my comment you were...
  3. Jimbone

    Tonight's Presidential Debate

    Not only that but 70 billion was for Ukraine and that war and $0 was for the wall. It was a joke "boarder security" bill for show to ram through other things. Anyone that buys into the lie that Trump undermined this administrations attempt to strengthen the boarder is very uninformed and just...
  4. Jimbone

    Are all works bad?

    Here's the thing about works, we can only do works that please the Father AFTER we are saved. Until we see "our way" for the trash path to death that it is and we are granted repentance, a gift from God, and born again (spiritually resurrected and reconnected to His Spirit) then we CANNOT please...
  5. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    So what exactly is being "born again"? In your words please clear this up. Are you saying we can be born again and then walk away from Jesus? We have to establish what this means before we can go any further. What does it mean to be born again, what do you say happens to us when we are born again?
  6. Jimbone

    Tonight's Presidential Debate

    And Kamala is the same liar, continuously spitting KNOWN lies, standing on a horrible record, in the position without EVER receiving 1 single vote, screaming "protect democracy". This confused empty suit is a clay ball that morphs from day to day. This woman is for national abortion for any...
  7. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    Okay so you believe in a works based salvation that is earned by your behavior and not a gift from God. I 100% disagree and believe this is a false gospel. I feel bad you have the full weight of salvation on your shoulders and would suggest that you submit yourself to the TRUE God through Jesus...
  8. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    While I can appreciate this and I personally hate labels, for example I do believe once God saves us, we are SAVED, I do NOT believe OSAS as most here that argue against it as if we are saved and therefore free to sin as much as we want to now with no worry about condemnation. I despise that...
  9. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    Okay, so you believe it's our works that saves or condemn us. I disagree. I do not believe in a works based gospel, you do. I think you're teaching a false gospel clearly, and are usurping Gods glory for yourself. Again I disagree, I believe it's ALL God that draws me to Him, Him that saves me...
  10. Jimbone

    Loss of salvation???

    He was forsaken, for our sin. This was Him taking the punishment for our sin and you scoff at it? How about when He said Himself "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?", why has God done what? "FORSAKEN Him". If the Father didn't forsake Him for your sin, then you still have it coming. This...
  11. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    Yes I do know a LOT of them here. Everyone that says that we can lose salvation has to believe it is their obedience that saves them. Not Gods grace, their ability to follow the law close enough. I'm not sure how the mental gymnastics work that makes them blind to this, but ANYONE that preaches...
  12. Jimbone

    A Challenge facing our nation right now

    What about my comment are you talking about? Please don't play dumb, you understood exactly what I was asking in the comment you were replying to. Acting like you misunderstood me or "just don't get it" is pretty lame. You know I was asking you if you love the country then why on earth do you...
  13. Jimbone

    Loss of salvation???

    Okay? So we get to stich any words in scripture together to make it say what we want and that's legit? I was OBVIOSLY talking about the verse he was using. What's your point? Argue? Why don't you answer the important questions about the false gospel of temporary conditional salvation? If you...
  14. Jimbone

    Loss of salvation???

    No different than you adding that a brother or sister can commit a sin that leads to death. You assume and add that to the text, it does NOT say that. "If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those...
  15. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    How can you tell me what my "ihimosphy" is? The Spirit has show me by His word and my experience that what I'm saying lines up perfectly with His word. To tell me that I'm trying to not believe His word is a lie and insulting, not to mention presumptuous and something you could never know...
  16. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    How did you get the power to know the motivations behind peoples beliefs? That's an amazing power to have.
  17. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    I can relate. Like I've said a few times, I too had to wrestle with these verses and I too believed they were saying that we could lose our salvation. When you have the wrong perspective about not only Gods power, but our power, it leads to these kinds of mistakes. To low a view on the power of...
  18. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    You are adding to His word to make it say and mean what you want it to. You can drag out the Greek and write 10 walls of text, but YOU have to add the "other than ourselves". So bottom line here is that you are trying to add to the word of God. I don't accept that.
  19. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    Maybe YOU can lose your salvation. John says if you leave it you never had it anyway, but that aside. I have been assured that I can't lose mine, by His word and AWESOME power and plan. I'd never serve the weak God you believe in. ANYONE that KNOWS the true power of God could never insult Him by...
  20. Jimbone

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    If you're honest then you have to see that you have nothing that says "partaking of the Holy Spirit does mean in dwelling of the Holy Spirit.” That same arrow can be picked up and shot right back at you. You don't get to declare what this means or not. The FACT is this doesn't clearly state...