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  1. sawdust

    Gods will vs mans free will

    But you based yours on an error to begin with by assuming that "begotten" couldn't be referring to Christians. I showed you that is not true. Born again Christians are referred to as begotten of God.
  2. sawdust

    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    As I said to another poster, it was my first clue when reading Revelation that God was directing someone other than the Church in those last seven years. One has to value the truth more than their own life.
  3. sawdust

    Gods will vs mans free will

    That is true but only if you leave grace out of the picture. However, grace has never been out of the picture as the Lord makes His sun to shine and his rain to fall on the good and bad alike. The heart is not inherently evil, indeed nothing in all creation is inherently evil, for if it was it...
  4. sawdust

    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    I'm a bit lost with the meaning of your posts. :confused: I don't hold to replacement theology, I know the poster you responded to doesn't either. The Church is both Jews and Gentiles yet, are neither really, one holy nation as the Bride of Christ. Israel is a separate entity, a nation under...
  5. sawdust

    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    Which Jewish tribe are you from? The 144,000 has nothing to do with the Church or adoption. The Church has never been referenced as "the 12 tribes of Israel". The 144,000 come from the 12 tribes, they are Jews. It was my first clue, when reading Revelation, that the end times were not about the...
  6. sawdust

    Hebrews 12 KJV

    Stick with it though and the blessing that follows the discipline is worth it. :) heb.12:11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
  7. sawdust

    Gods will vs mans free will

    How does one make a Freewill offering if one is not free to do so of their own will? Leviticus 1:3 ‘If his offering is a burnt sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish; he shall offer it of his own free will at the door of the tabernacle of meeting before the Lord...
  8. sawdust

    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    A friend sent me a funny meme recently ... "Fairy tales used to start with 'Once upon a time' ... now they start with 'According to the experts' " ;) :ROFL:
  9. sawdust

    Gods will vs mans free will

    Yes it is about Christians. It is the same word (translated begotten) as used in Jn.3:8 and 1Jn.5:18 which is clearly talking about those born of the Spirit (ie. believers) John is saying no-one born of God can habitually practice sin (no license to sin) because belonging to God, ensures we...
  10. sawdust

    Dealing with shame and guilt?

    I imagine because in this case he is looking for an answer, not more questions.
  11. sawdust

    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    There is only one Second Coming. It is about Christ returning to Earth to rule from Israel. The Resurrection of the Church (Rapture) is about the Church meeting Christ in the air. He does not step foot on Earth at this time. In regards to the raising of the dead (Resurrection of the Church)...
  12. sawdust

    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    There are 144,000 Jews who are sealed, not Christians, the Church won't be here. Rev.7:4-8 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed: 5 of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed; of the...
  13. sawdust

    Dealing with shame and guilt?

    Do you attend a Bible teaching Church or receive teaching online? Do you spend some time studying the Bible each day or at least spend some time reading it or using a devotional? Do you pray each day? When guilt and shame assail you, do you look to God's word and consider what He says on the...
  14. sawdust

    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    I know what pre-tribulation is, I was asking to what verse you were referring in regards to who are the righteous dead? Are you simply referring to all believers or is their a particular verse you have in mind that references the "righteous dead". If you are referring to all believers then I...
  15. sawdust

    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    Could you explain to what verse you are referring please? I believe the resurrection happens in stages. First Christ, then those who belong to Him according to their own company, ie. Church, Israel, Millennial saints etc. (resurrection unto life) and then lastly those who He has nothing to do...
  16. sawdust

    Gods will vs mans free will

    Your understanding of free will doesn't exist because everything is bound to it's own nature but is that what is meant by free will? Free does not mean to be without limitations. If such were the case, freedom couldn't truly exist for the universe would be a mishmash of random chaos.
  17. sawdust

    What is the point in being a prophet?

    Yes I think they are unbelievers because the Lord Himself said He never knew them! Why are you having such a hard time admitting you misunderstood what @Genez was talking about? The discussion was centered around these verses. Matt.7:22&23 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did...
  18. sawdust

    What is the point in being a prophet?

    Again with your lack of comprehension. It is the Lord who knows and He said regarding the ones @Genez was talking about that "He never knew them", meaning unsaved.
  19. sawdust

    What is the point in being a prophet?

    No, he was describing unbelievers who think they are believers because they manage to "pull off" supernatural feats but are deceived. What's amazing is you cannot comprehend what he is saying and constantly get it wrong then make your false accusations based on your erroneous perceptions.
  20. sawdust

    What is the point in being a prophet?

    What can I say? I'm the eternal optimist. :LOL: