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THANKS NEHEMIAH. Please bear with me ... please read below prayerfully ... maybe God wants you to CONSIDER ... like those in Berea ... Acts 17.11 Are we not parsing words here. ??? YOU SAY: " Pentecostals teach the baptism IN the Spirit " What is the difference ... if in fact ...

Thanks ... I wasn't offended. Just making point ... our humor ... gets in the way ... and maybe this is why God says it's not convenient. I was ... politely rebuked for this by a very humble and dedicated servant of God ... can't remember what I joked about ... he said ... regardless there is...

thanks oyster67 ! Salvation = you agree = HS comes to dwell in the repented person. Then, scripture clearly shows ... a 2nd manifestation/experience ... example the disciples plus 120. AND that shows, when this happened they ALL spoke with tongues. AS to TONGUES ? Is it for all Christians...

Yes ... I believe your testimony. BUT, you believed on the Lord Jesus first ... otherwise nothing would have happen. When you believed ... HS came to dwell in your heart = born again. SMILE = not convenient = helpful in serious conversations = Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor...

don't understand .... up who's nose ??? ... comment. Where comes from ... about what ???

Do you follow the logic ... argument ... conclusion ... scriptural proof ?

High Nehemiah. Sorry ... the Pentecostal church DID NOT invent that TERM. Jesus DID ... He said He would BAPTIZE the believers. Yes. I agree the repentant person will be BORN OF THE SPIRIT ... like Jesus told Nicodemus ... and the woman at the Well. You have to wrestle with John 20.22 [...

Yes! WHAT ? Jesus said He'd BAPTIZE His followers with the Holy Spirit ( Luke 24.49, Acts 1.5, 8 ) plus John promised same thing ( Matt. 3.11 ) = the Spirit coming UPON Believer, which doesn't mean IN them. The INDWELLING of Holy Spirit happens at salvation ( Jn 4.14 ) ... the Baptism occurs...

Hi Gideon. Are your ready to sharpen SWORDS and discuss ... maybe some scriptural evidence .... that might make your RETHINK your present understanding ?

Do you agree, that the pouring out of Holy Spirit ... as you say ... is what is called being Baptized in the Holy Spirit as promised by Jesus Lk 24:49 and Acts 1:5 and 8. ( = which is the Promise of the Father --- according to Joel 2.28 and Peter ... Acts 2.16 ... that the speaking in...

Thank you Oyster67. I agree with this general statement. Would you agree that this born again manifestation of HS ... in the heart of the Believer ... happens based on the principle of Romans 10:9-10 ! Assuming that repentance is all part of that confessing JESUS and believing God has raised...

I'' CONFUSED, ABOUT ONE OF YOUR ANSWERS ABOVE. YOU SAY " ►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄ " SCRIPTURE SAYS: Act 19:1 ¶ And it happened, while Apollos was at Corinth, that Paul, having passed through the upper regions, came to Ephesus. And finding some disciples...

Was the FIRST baptism in the Holy Spirit = Acts 2:1-4 ?

Still having trouble navigating. Mem you say above: A Christian may be born again and not baptised in the Spirit. However, those who are not born again cannot receive the baptism of the Spirit. I agree with this. So then, by this above statement, you mean: the Holy Spirt FIRST dwells in...

NO, I'm not saying that. My post before basically said, THE DISCIPLES WERE BORN AGAIN ... on the day of the Resurrection ... then also all 120 before Pentecost ... BECAUSE of Jesus saying RECIEVE HS and the principle of Romans 10:9=10. The whole of the 120 SAW Jesus in flesh. They had to be...

I spoke with nice lady today, who said there was 2 born again experiences. NEVER HEARD HIS. Anyways, she said, HS came UPON disciples in John 20.22, BUT they weren't BA. Then again HS came ON 120 ( including disciples ) at Pentecost ... AND that is when HS WENT INTO ... all 120 ... that...

Born Again = Romans 10.9-10 says = confess Jesus + believe in your heart God raised Him from dead = SAVED = has to mean BA. So then. at night of Resurrection, the 10 boys ( less Judas and Thomas who wasn't there ) ... SAW Jesus ... saw his hands and feet ... and Jesus blew on them ... saying...

Sorry again, I have to close the link. Then reopen when I get email notification you answered. Born Again. Romans 10.9-10 says = confess Jesus + believe in your heart God raised Him from dead = SAVED = has to mean BA. So then. at night of Resurrection, the 10 boys ( less Judas and Thomas who...

Mem. I can't figure how to navigate. Can see our answer. but anyways .... So, I believe now, that the disciples were born again when Jesus walked into the room their were hiding in ( resurrection evening ) ... Jesus breathed on them ...said receive Holy Spirit ... but then later told them to...