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Look guys. You have to understand that God is a God of purpose. if you look at Romans 9 and 10 and 11, you will see that God has a purpose for his Covenant Jewish people. This is part of the foundation for the rapture. The Bible says Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles until the...

So you agree with the Bible that a postrib rapture is impossible.?

According to the bible the wise virgins are not left behind. Matthew 25 Matthew 24 Revelation 4 The last supper dialogue Acts 1 1 thes 4 The innumerable number in heaven during the trib. . Rev 14. Noah Lot All just a few verses that CONCLUSIVELY point to a partial gathering of the church...

Quote for me a postrib rapture verse. Are you aware that the postrib doctrine openly declares "only one coming"? ....and rightly so. Their ENTIRE theory falls apart if there is more than one. Read matthew 24. 2 comings VIVIDLY DECLAED BY JESUS. READ REV 14. I that chapter there are 3...

Except you are beating a dead horse. 1) the AC is given power to overcome christians. 2) He ARRIVES AT THE TRIB, as a king or ruler and a Killer. 3) ALL, not some, receive the mark that are not written in the Lamb's Book of Life. 4) the Antichrist is overcome, according to the Bible, "by the...

Ahem. That battle is at a certain place in Israel. So, no, you are totally wrong about earth's population destroyed.

By omitting the next verses, which is basic error ( omit and get the ones incorporated backwards) you have a "one two punch" of GUARANTEED ERROR. 1) You omit "Noah gathered before the flood" 2) You omit Jesus himself saying his coming is BEFORE THE FLOOD 3) You omit the ones taken/ left is...

Rev17:14 is Jesus destroying the AC and his army. Not earth's population. I get what you're doing here Because when you went To Luke 24 You try to incorporate all of Earth's population being wiped out To Jesus Coming. wherever you may place that I'm not even sure . Instead of placing it...

Rev 19:15 says he comes on white horses and rules the nation's with a rod of iron. Completely different from your theory that no ungodly enter the MK.

In Matthew 24 you left out "before the flood" You changed all verses by eliminating what Jesus said

Nobody was " taken away" before the flood. So nothing of your post applies. Stick with Jesus's analogy. Jesuscsaid " before the flood, one taken,one left" You are transposing the world's population onto " before the flood" The ONLY ONES removed before the flood were Noah and family. I...

Does Rev 14 ( what you call pure talk) have 3 gatherings? Very simple question for you. Btw...that would be scripture.

A man leaves earth in grace and love floating solo in a time of peace, commerce and normal life addressing only his followers. The angels were so mistaken IN THEIR DESCRIPTION under your doctrine. NONE OF THE "LIKE MANNER" OF ACTS 1 FITS YOUR THEORY. ABSOLUTELY WRONG, AND TOTALLY MISPLACED AND...

The Bible says all take the mark. Every man,woman, and child. All take the mark not written in the book. No Christians "go through the trib" Refuse the mark and you are beheaded.

Now remember guys we are looking for at least 1 verse supporting a postrib rapture.

Re read it Matthew 24 says AFTER THE TRIB. Now you got that part right. But completely missed the rest of the verse. Angel gather FROM HEAVEN. AHEM, IN the Rapture, Jesus gathers from earth. 1 thes 4 is used equally by both sides , but postribbers OMIT ALL SISTER VERSES. TOTALLY OMITTED. So we...

Explain how one taken/left is not the rapture. Then what you are speculating in Luke 17.

Bingo. Well said

Never said that. I am saying the taken/left is WHAT JESUS SAID...BEFORE THE FLOOD, ONE TAKEN/LEFT. SO was Jesus confused????? Did he consult your doctrine to correct his error?

You only believe what you are told. Rev 14 has 3 gatherings. None of them are the rapture of 1 thes 4. Your doctrine has a declaration of "only one coming" If I show you more than one, your entire deal fails. It destroys completely your eschatology. Rev 14 does just that. Acts 1 does just that...