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  1. Forcemyhand

    Are the words of Jesus not for Christians?

    What about the most famous verse in the Scriptures? John 3:16-17,“For Elohim so loved the world that He gave His only brought-forth Son, so that everyone who believes in Him should not perish but possess everlasting life. “For Elohim did not send His Son into the world to judge the world, but...
  2. Forcemyhand

    Are the words of Jesus not for Christians?

    yes, without doubt Revelation 21:10-27, “And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the set-apart Yerushalayim, descending out of the heaven from the Mighty One, having the esteem of the Mighty One, and her light was like a most precious...
  3. Forcemyhand

    Are the words of Jesus not for Christians?

    Yes 1 John 3:2-3, “Beloved ones, now we are children of Elohim. And it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. And everyone having this expectation in Him cleanses himself, as He is clean.” Psalms...
  4. Forcemyhand

    Are the words of Jesus not for Christians?

    You should read and meditate on this imo, just try to give it an honest look? John 14:23-26, “יהושע answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our stay with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And...
  5. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    You know what, I see the healing as spiritual first, also I didnt get mad, I typed words. You went to land promises, something that was not at all mentioned in your quote, what you said I agree with, but you keep changing topics. You started with healing, then went to land promises...then back...
  6. Forcemyhand

    Are the words of Jesus not for Christians?

    So you follow Paul? The Messiah says He is the one to follow, and YHWH says Yahshua is the one to follow. John 10:27-30, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father...
  7. Forcemyhand

    Are the words of Jesus not for Christians?

    John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd." John 5:43, “I have come in My Father's Name, but you do not follow Me. Let another come in his own name; him you will...
  8. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    Never said it was not loving Matthew 12:50, “For whoever does the desire of My Father who is in the heavens is My brother and sister and mother.” John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to...
  9. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    No John is saying to abide in what the Messiah taught: "staying in the teaching of Messiah" and warning not to follow other doctrines/false teachings. 2 John 1:9-11, “Everyone who is transgressing and not staying in the teaching of Messiah does not possess the Mighty One. The one who stays in...
  10. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    Of course, His disciples, and what did He tell His disciples to teach? "teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you" Matthew 28:19-20, “Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey...
  11. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    Except you are not really addressing what I was saying, possibly I did not word it clearly, so Paul says: 2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.. Yahshua says...
  12. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    Are you "allergic" to the Messiah and His teachings also? How come a thread can't be made to focus of the Messiah? I would think a religion about Him would be glad to focus on Him... John 14:23-26, “יהושע answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him...
  13. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    OK but the quote you made said nothing about physical blessings that is another topic, you did a bait and switch, you quote talked about the healing power of Yahshua an YHWH then you made it about land promises, it's like you can't help but put your own ideas onto me as if it were true, sorry...
  14. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    Generally yes, I would word it differently and I feel some key principles are left out, but for a short quick statement that church leaders need to catch peoples attention I would say yes. Nice Psalm too btw Psalms 107:19-21, "And cried out to יהוה in their distress, He saved them out of their...
  15. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My words (teachings) will not pass away.” John/Yahanan 12:48, “He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day.” John/Yahanan 12:48, “He who...
  16. Forcemyhand

    Are the words of Jesus not for Christians?

    OK, I misunderstood you, my fault, however I see it as the same with one having a placeholder. Pre MEssiah Hebrew Israelites had to keep the Passover, the physical animal Lamb was a placeholder, post Messiah sacrifice all have to accept Him and follow Him, the true passover Lamb, one way for...
  17. Forcemyhand

    Today’s church’s misunderstandings

    Thank you for your reply, I disagree with your view, and want to state why; We need more truth less tradition. The Word never designates the 1st day as special, nor does it say He rose on the 1st day, but rather all 4 gospels state He ha already risen before the 1st day. And no the ending of...
  18. Forcemyhand

    Are the words of Jesus not for Christians?

    every Jewish person is not saved just by being Jewish? what are you talking about? Also the Passover in Ex 12 is only a placeholder for acceptingYahshua, He had not yet come... now anyone who follows yahshua is as a native...
  19. Forcemyhand

    Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?

    This is a thread about following Yahshua/Jesus, dwelling on His words and teachings and thoughts about Him, why is there an instant rejection of this and quoting of Paul, is it not permissible for the christian to read the Messiah's words and cherish them? Yahshua says the Holy Spirit will...