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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Yeah, thats why scripture says that we were reconciled/justified, to God by Christs death while we are enemies/unbelievers. Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. According to Rom...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renew I agree, just like if a person believes God loves everyone and Christ died for everyone, thats believing a lie. To deny that a sinner whom Christ died, is not Justified by Christs death, means Christ isnt the object of their Faith, but their act of believing is, thats also believing a...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Not just any unbelievers, but elect Justified born again unbelievers who have yet to hear the Gospel.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Eph 1:13 agrees with me. Its about regenerated unbelievers who hear spiritually the word of Truth, the Gospel of their Salvation. They are saved spiritually before they believe, else how could it the Gospel of their [possesive] Salvation. In other words it was their Salvation, they possessed it...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    There you again, avoiding a truth clearly stated within a context. According to Rom 4:25 why was Jesus risen again ?25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    The Truth is found within the context, it doesnt matter if its at beginning of the context, in the middle of it, at the end of it. Each verse contains Truth and shouldn't be discarded because it doesnt fit ones traditions ! If things were the way you say, not even the Apostles could have...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Yes I do. I all the time show you a scripture that is found within a given context, and you immediately reject it and claim Im ripping it out of its context. Which is a lie, Im merely highlighting a truth found in the context. You do this all the time because you condition Justification before...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    There you again, you condition Justification before God, you base it upon when a sinner believes, that Justification by works. The scripture and I agree condition the sinners Justification before God on the Blood of Christ before they believe.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    All that believe are or have been Justified ! 2 Again, the point being made here is that only those already Justified believe as an evidence of the fact ! Now the word Justified in Rom 3:24 Being justified freely [without conditions by us] by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed It is the issue, the natural man unbeliever cant believe the Truth so they believe lies, to believe a lie is to remain in unbelief. But the person who Christ died, has been Justified by His Blood, so eventually they will be given the New Birth and the Gift of Faith to believe the...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats True, but you dont have to be born again to be Justified before God, the persons Jesus died for, His Sheep only, Gods elect, Are Justified before God even while they are unregenerate, God hating enemies and unbelievers.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed The only unbeliever that can believe and will believe is one that has been born again . Once an individual is born of the Spirit then they have spiritual ears to hear spiritually. Thats why its written Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    webers home Its the power of God in the New Birth, its also giving the Gift of Faith.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Delivered from the curse of the Law ! Num 23:8 How shall I curse, whom God hath not cursed? or how shall I defy, whom the Lord hath not defied? Gal 3:10-13 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    According to Rom 4:25 Jesus rose again because of what ? 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Im still waiting on the scripture that says man must meet or do a requirement for Salvation. Thats law preaching.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    It doesnt matter, Paul is writing to Gods Elect. Hes not writing the epistle of Colossians to the entire world of men. Thats foolish thinking. And yes believers were Justified, forgiven, had their sins blotted away way before they believed. If a believer is born in 1957, and Christ died for...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    I do it all the time and you reject them, and say Im taking them out of context ! Duh whenever you highlight a certain text from its context, you are lifting it out of its context to see whats highlighted ! Jesus did it, Paul did it, Peter did it and any sound bible teacher does it.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    You must be deluded if you believe you believe it, since you adamantly teach that Faith is a qualifying condition man must meet in order to Justification before God. You flat out deny it !
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    As long as you believe Faith is a requirement for men in order to Justification before God, you teach Justification by works, and deny Justification by Grace and the Blood of Christ.