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renewed I didnt conclude that, Jesus said human faith is of the Law you ought to have done Matt 23:23 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought...

renewed There you go again, making human faith to be righteousness. So you advocate Justification by doing what is required by law. I told you what the It was and is, you ignored it.

renewed Yes human faith is required, it ought to be done, I didnt say it, Jesus did Matt 23:23 isnt me talking but Jesus speaking : 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment...

renewed Thats what you are doing, trying to keep the law by making human faith a requirement for Justification before God. Since you wanna go that route, you must live with the consequences. The only difference between you and the Pharisees is that you make human law Faith to be the only...

renewed And you make human natural faith that one faith, which is law. Jesus says of human faith under the law Matt 23:23 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and...

No, Thats your belief, you and I dont believe the same.

renewed Again the Mystery of the Gospel isnt secluded to the Gentile inclusion in the Salvation purpose of Gods Israel. The Gospel in general is a Mystery to the Natural man. The Gospel/Christ must be revealed Rom 1:16=17 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power...

renewed The Gospel is a Mystery, even the Mystery of the Faith 1 Tim 3:9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. The Gospel being a Mystery isnt limited to the Mystery of the Gentiles, thats just one aspect, the Gospel in general with its Truths is a Mystery to the natural man.

renew The wisdom of God, which is Christ, is hidden wisdom, Paul made that clear 1 Cor 2:7 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: The Gospel is hid to them which are lost, and thats all the final unregenerate...

renewed The Gospel is hidden wisdom to the natural man. The Gospel is a Mystery 1 Cor 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Its only to the Glory of the chosen ones. Christ is the wisdom of God, but its...

Posting a verse found in a given context is witnessing the Truth of God !

renewed Rom 4:5 is clear, God Justifieth the ungodly, that's while ungodly. Justifying is in the present tense, the the ones God is Justifying are the ungodly with the definite article. He is not look at their Faith or their believing, but what they are by nature, ungodly. Now the reason why...

renewed The Justified know nothing of having been justified by Christs blood until they receive the knowledge of it by God given Faith, so we may say Justification or righteousness is imputed to ones conscience at the time of believing, but thats it. The It there is not Abrahams believing...

renewed Righteousness is imputed before one believes, believing Faith is the evidence of of one already having righteousness imputed.

renewed False statement, no scripture says that.

renewed Thats fine with what we discussing, nevertheless believing is the evidence of Justification as well as Spiritual life.

A dead man is without hope until he is made alive. Like the Gentiles were Eph 2:12 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: Natural man has no chance...

Acquitted by the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all ! Isa 53:6 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Whomever the Us all here is, whose iniquties were laid [caused to light upon] on Him...

So the natural man is dead to God, he cant do anything unless He is first made alive or born again.

Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven ! Those Christ died for are forgiven of sins before they believe, and while they are enemies, and the reason for this blessedness Rom 4:7-8 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man...