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    Free Will - A More Exhaustive Look

    Good point, the unregenerate man is held captive by the devil, where freewill now 2 Tim 2:24-26 24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them...
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    Free Will - A More Exhaustive Look

    Paul is speaking as a born again man. My comments is about the natural, unregenerate man, hes a slave to sin. No freewill not to be a slave to sin.
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    Free Will - A More Exhaustive Look

    tms Man naturally is a servant to sin, he cannot choose not to be Jn 8 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. Man has to be made free from being a servant of sin. Rom 6:17 17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of...
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    Free Will - A More Exhaustive Look

    tms This is human wisdom. Man is spiritually dead to God, and a slave to the devil. Jesus told some men Jn 6:44 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justified by His Death apart from our believing it ! Justified by His Death apart from our believing it and the Resurrection of Christ from the dead after having died for our sins proves it ! One of the biggect lies in antichrist false religion, it is the distortion of the Blessed Gospel...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    fgc I may differ with you here a little, I believe eternal salvation is in view, but Paul is describing the conversion experience of the regenerated, their confessing and believing are fruits of their saved regenerated state. One must have been quickened to call on the Name of the Lord Ps...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    fgc Correct, its the world of believers or the world of His Own Jn 13:1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. And He didnt...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    This thread is about the saving death of Christ, you should have known that when you joined the discussion. I never labeled you a liar, yet what you say in opposition to Christs saving death is false.
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Thats your issue friend. Christs death is a saving death, which you deny since you proclaim many people for whom Christ died shall yet perish in unbelief and sin, as though no Saviour existed.
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    I never heard it stated that way, but its truth to that statement.
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    THE WORK OF CHRIST Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him. Isaiah 62:11 When I was a young man, the religious tradition in which I was raised spoke of...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Neh6 Its not a suggestion, its a declaration of the Gospel Jn 10:15 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. Thats the Sheepfold World Because all are not Christs Sheep Jn 10:26 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Any sinner Christ didnt die for and redeem will remain unregenerate/ lost. You say and teach that a person Christ died for can remain, unregenerate and lost, go figure . You give satan, the world, and the flesh victory over Christ !
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats what you believe and teach, since you say Christ died for people who will nevertheless go to hell for their sins, following satan into the lake of fire.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed No, the lost person Christ didnt die for, You make satan more powerful than Christ since you teach there are people He died for, who will nevertheless be lost in their sins in unbelief.
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Thats False, Christ died only for them He saved. The devil cannot prevent Christ from saving a person He died for. Jesus by His death builds His Church Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Sounds like to me you are confused.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed This describes the regenerated person being converted, he or she has been given a new regenerated heart. Man naturally cant believe with his wicked uncircumcised heart. Man by nature cant believe unto righteousness, in fact righteousness must first be revealed to faith Rom...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed quoted Thats not understood by the natural man. Jesus had to open up mens understanding to understand that very Gospel Lk 24:44-46 44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed It doesnt have to.kryptō does 1 Cor 2:7 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: The Gospel is hidden wisdom spoken in a mystery, and its only ordained unto the Church. Its pre-decided who will believe...