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The only atonement the scripture teaches is limited to Gods elect, no matter how much you appeal to words like World or whole world, or all and every, doesnt change the fact of the Limited atonement ! Also the atonement death of Christ saved them He died for. Hence anyone not saved, had no part...

Thats the conclusion I may draw on a fair basis since you yourself admit that people Christ died for shall yet perish in unbelief and their sins, lost !

renewed The Lord God spoke to the serpent and said that He was put enmity between him and woman and his seed and her seed. So does the serpent have a seed ? Why did God say that ?

Him that Justifieth the Ungodly ! Rom 4:5 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. This means God is Justifying them while they are being Ungodly, not when they are believing, but while Ungodly ! Now who are these...

It makes us dead to the Law and sin ! 2 Because of the accomplishment of the Body of Christ, that is to say His Death, all for whom who died, before they believe, repent, or obey in any capacity, and even while they are born sinners, disobedient,children of wrath by nature as others Eph 2:3...

Being Justified by His Blood apart from our Faith ! Rom 5:9 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. Being Justified by His Blood apart from our Faith ! Now false religion denies and discards this sacred truth, that initially and to begin...

It makes us dead to the Law and sin ! All for whom Christ died, by that death alone , have been made dead to the Law and sin ! Rom 7:4 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the...

renewed lol, they the same thing, acknowledging the Truth is another way of saying they believe it it to be true. Paul links it with Faith in Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is...

renewed They were Justified as ungodly , so while in unbelief. those Christ died for are born Justified by His death You cant escape it its God Justifies the ungodly, so they were ungodly when justified. Plus They were Justified when Christ rose from the dead for their Justification Rom 4:25...

0654 renewed Yes you do deny Rom 4:5 since that verse is a declaration that God Justifies a person while being ungodly. Lol, speaking of what Jesus one believes in. I hope you know that believing in a jesus that died for everyone without exception is not the Jesus of scripture. The Jesus of...

renewed Correct and you are absolutely wrong. Every sinner Christ died for is Justified by His death coming out the womb as a ungodly sinner, of course Christ only died for His elect. This is what this thread is about False. Thats like saying Christ didn't die for any sinner before they were...

Justification from sin is prior to Faith in Christ ! Justification from sin is prior to Faith in Christ , for the Justified; simply because the laying of their sins upon Christ was prior to their believing in Him, and the Laying of their sins upon Christ did Justify them from their sins, since...

Causes to Live by Faith and why ? 2 Heb 10:10 10 By the which will[will of God] we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. The Sanctification here spoken of as a result of the offering of Christ or Death, same thing, its according to the will of God It...

Believers were Justified/Made Righteous while Ungodly ! Believers were Justified/Made Righteous while Ungodly ! This Truth the unbelieving religious world cannot receive, That all for whom Christ died, that fact alone, apart from any obedience of their own, and even while they were operating by...

renewed Yes, Rom 5:12 is also speaking of the elect, the Church. The Romans 5 passage 12ff is contrasting the elect in Adam and the Elect in Christ, and the consequences of the each Head, Adam and Christ. No others die, others sin, but they aren't being discussed in the passage, only the...

Yes, you deny scripture truth, but you deceived.

renewed You think you believe scripture but you really oppose them Again, you reject Justification by the blood of Christ Rom 5:9 and the resurrection of Jesus Christ testifies to it Rom 4:25 You reject the testimony that God Justifies the ungodly while being ungodly Rom 4:5

renewed Now you judging me , thats hypocritical ! You have hijacked the Gift of Faith which is the fruit of Christs Spirit, and made it something found in the natural man who is spiritually dead to God ! Faith receives the Divine Testimony that one is Justified by the blood...

renewed I still dont see why you are making this point. I believe in the resurrection of Christ morethan you do, because He was raised again for the Justification of them He died for Rom 4:25 which were His Sheep Heb 13:20 20 Now may the God of peace who brought up our Lord...

renewed You bring up human faith, the bible never does. Eph 4:5 isn't about your novelty of human faith. So since you bring it into the equation you must deal with the consequences, and that is it is law keeping Matt 23:23 23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay...