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thererose The elect technically were always safe from going to hell premised on the death of Christ in time, yet purposed by God before the time, Christs SuretyShip Death was certain to occur in time, Gods purpose concluded it already done Rev 13:8 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall...

thereroselamb What kinda comment is that in light of Lk 19:10 10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. And the Covenant Abraham had a eye to was founded on Christ coming in time and dying on the Cross for the redemption of His People, the seed of Abraham Gal...

This is about the Gospel doctrine of unconditional election !

Says who ? God created everything in view of Salvation through Christ. This world was created for Him as the Surety redeemer Col 1:14-16 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16...

Faith to Live and Serve God by ! Its no fluke that the scriptures state emphatically that the Just shall live by Faith Rom 1:17 that being all for whom Christ died, because His death of obedience makes them Just or Righteous Rom 5:19 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners...

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Im good, I conclude you and I dont see eye to eye on that matter.

Tell me what are we to believe about Christ ? Be informative

I didnt say it was meaningless, thats your slander suggestion, I said it didnt change anything, man naturally cant believe or repent. Peter preach Acts 5:31 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

That scripture doesnt change anything. Man cant repent or believe until he has been born again.

Believe in who ?

Im asking is one believing in the Jesus presented in the scripture, who came strictly to save His People from their sins as announced Matt 1:21 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. Or are they believing in the...

Thats false, its not mere opportunity, its repentance given. And its given only to Gods Elect, also called Israel in Acts 5:31 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Is believing Jesus Christ died for all without exception belief in the Jesus Christ the scripture sets forth ?

Correct, Jesus as Saviour must give repentance in Salvation Acts 5:31 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. Otherwise men cant repent.

Its a change of mind.

God has a chosen people whom He causes to repent and believe, and so He sends them preachers like John

Of course its Truth to it, it is Truth. Man by nature cant repent, cant believe, as far as Salvation goes, hes in a helpless state, dead to God

But in order to Look to the Son, we must first have eyes to see, that comes by the new birth, only the born again will be able to look to the Son and Believe, because they are His Sheep.

Man cant believe and cannot repent.