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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You may quote scripture all you want my friend, nevertheless you apparently dont understand any of them since in the final analysis you dont believe Christs death in and of itself Justified, made righteous before God all for whom He died. Thats unbelief and not faith in Christ.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    lol You call the Gospel by the name of a man ? Thats very blasphemous to the Gospel Doctrines of Grace, and its unbelief in disguise.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    This is a rabbit trail, please discuss what I presented. Do you understand it ?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Again you believe people Christ died for remain lost in their sins, unjustified, unforgiven, thats unbelief !
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    You reject unconditional election of grace, you reject one of the basic doctrines of Salvation by Grace through Faith.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    There is no way around it, you believe people Christ died for remain lost in their sins, unjustified, unforgiven, thats unbelief !
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Friend you reject that, im afraid you reject the Gospel of Gods Grace.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    paran Thats absolutely false ! In fact there is no other way a person will be saved through Christ.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Yet Individual election refers to God's unconditionally choosing in eternity past particular persons to receive saving grace and mercy in time. 1 Tim 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. 1 Pet 2:10...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Again my friend you don't acknowledge the saving death of Christ so that is unbelief plain and simple!
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I have No problem with those verses, but you have a problem with acknowledging that Christs death alone in and of itself saved, accomplished the salvation for all whom He died, and that's unbelief, not Faith in Christ as Saviour.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    More unbelief, Christs death accomplished Salvation, saved/ Justified all for whom He died, and that apart from them doing anything.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    You do disregard scripture, thats why you deny Jesus death alone Justified before God those He gave Himself for, which again is unbelief !
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    You still in unbelief!
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Again, the Blood of Christ Justifies, the death of Christ alone. You are in unbelief and are promoting works.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Why didnt he say Jesus accomplished your salvation ?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    To say no and disagree is unbeiief, it's denial of the justifying efficacy of the Blood of Christ. That's unbelief!
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    We are Justified, made right with God, if and when Christ has taken away our sins, Jn 1:29 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 1 Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    To me to say no is unbelief, because the bible teaches that sinners Christ died for are in deed Justified by His Blood Rom 5:9 so therefore before they believe, I mean Christ died for their sins before they believed, and its His death that Justifies before God, and nothing else.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    So did you understand my post you quoted ? It seems you went to a different subject.