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The thread is strictly about the legal aspect of Justification, when is it legally applied before the Throne of God. When does God reckon one to be Justified before Him and on what basis ? I believe the scripture teach that its before faith and while ungodly. What do you say ?

So are you interested in discussing my points as it regards the thread ?

Seems like you sweating it to me.

Like I said, there will be a large number saved, no man can number, and a larger number damned no man can number. Dont sweat it, its Gods business

What do you mean how ? It just will be. Just think about the number that wont be in heaven, no doubt it exceeds the number that will be in heaven, either way, man doesnt know those things.

Sure its predestination there and everywhere else. God created certain people to be vessels of wrath and He fits them for destruction, they had no choice in the matter, just like a pot had no choice in the matter as to why the Potter created it and for what purpose. The same for the vessels of...

I see, but only a remnant of mankind will be saved, justified.

It accomplished remission of sins which is Justification !2 Its good to consider a very important aspect of this matter of remission of sins due to the shed blood of Christ, the Blood of the New Covenant / Testament Matt 26:28 ! We should understand that this Covenant forgiveness through His...

Don't need to find those words, yet only some of mankind is elect, and that's a remnant, the rest are blinded. God decreed their blindness and their final destruction, for He created part of mankind as vessels of wrath and fits them for destruction. Rom 9:20-22 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou...

So you dont believe Rom 11:32 is about the elect. Notice again those mentioned God has mercy on their unbelief. Thats not true of all Jn 3:18 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only...

@Evmur That scripture is about all the elect Rom 11:32 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Hes talking about all the elect remnant from the jews and all the elect from the Gentiles, And notice, God gives them mercy for their unbelief, not...

@Evmur I believe your quarrel is with God friend, who excludes people from the election of Grace, thats why God calls it a remnant, Rom 9:15 15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. Rom 11:5-7 5 Even...

Two ways elect sinners are Justified before God before they believe or have Faith. 1. By Christ being made a Surety for them Isa 42:6 6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the...

It accomplished remission of sins which is Justification ! Matt 26:28 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. The word for eis is the prep meaning: into, in, unto, to, upon, towards, for, among. 1519 eis (a preposition) – properly, into...

To be able to lose salvation is equivalent to saying we lose Christ who is our Salvation ! The Old Saint said Lk 2:29-31 9 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: 30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, 31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all...

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More unbelief proven.

More unbelief !

More unbelief that the death of Christ redeems them He died for from all iniquity, which includes disobedience and unbelief.

More unbelief of the fact that all men have not faith as stated in 2 Thess 3:2