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@Chaps Right and Christs death redeems those He died for from unbelief. However I see you deny it

And take note of my response

@reneweddaybyday Yes these are the elect and sin cannot and will not be imputed to anyone composing the world in these scriptures.

This is a dumb response. Not even worth responding to.

Christs death causes them He died for to live, spiritually and eternally. 1 Jn 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Thats what happens with the Love of God and Christs death removing...

Christs redeeming death redeems from unbelief and all iniquity Titus 2:14 14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. Unbelief is nothing more than iniquity

Nothing about Gods Grace being gentile, its almighty power, it produces saving converting results, in fact its the almighty dynamic why some believe and some dont. Those who believe do so BECAUSE OF GRACE Acts 18:27 27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting...

Then we dont agree.

Justification before God is before Faith/Believing because non imputation of sin is before Faith/Believing. 2 Cor 5:19 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Rom 4:8...

No you been exalting the will if man. However Grace reigns through Jesus Christ, all for whom He died receive grace from His Fulness Jn 1:16 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. You demean grace saying Thats what Christ does for them He died for, He sets them...

Exalting the will of man in salvation. Nothing Gentle about Gods Grace, its omnipotent spiritual power, for it reigns supreme over sin and death. Rom 5:21 21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. Grace...

@Thunderrr-mental Oh really ? Show it to us please

Deal with what I posted. Did I use scripture for that ? In fact read all my posts in this thread on predestination, it will reveal what I believe

Deal with what I posted. Did I use scripture for that ?

What is predestination ? It is God’s predetermining all reasonable beings, whether angels or men, to an everlasting domain either of salvation or damnation. 1 Thess 5:9 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, So predestination is comprised...

The simple point is, Christs atonement saves from unbelief since it redeems from all iniquity. And you are opposing that.

His death must cause or give life ! 1 Jn 4:9 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Contrary to what false teachers would tell us and have people to believe, that God through Christ offers...

Im not sure I understand you, but man by nature is dead to God, he can do nothing Godward worth anything towards Salvation, he must be born again, resurrected from the dead, which is totally out of our control.

Im not sure I understand you, but man by nature is dead to God, he can do nothing Godward worth anything towards Salvation, he must be born again, resurrected from the dead, which is totally out of our control.

Im not sure I understand you, but man by nature is dead to God, he can do nothing Godward worth anything towards Salvation, he must be born again, resurrected from the dead, which is totally out of our control.