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    He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

    I agree to some degree. I agree him offering Isaac proved Abraham to be faithful. James says it also fulfilled God's declaration of Abraham being righteous. Abraham proved, by his works, himself to be faithful before Gen. 15? 8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place...
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    He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

    Yep, it's really easy if we just read and believe what it says.
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    He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

    Excellent points. To your first point, I would go to this verse and I believe this is for us individually. 10 So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of faith. Second point, I'll have to think about Matt. 25 being...
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    He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

    I believe context is king and I do consider the context. I respectfully suggest you are the one not sticking to the context. James gives us the context of Abraham's faith but since that one doesn't fit your narrative, you go to the one that seems to fit your narrative. I suggest the context...
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    He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

    I disagree. The act James was talking about was the same act Jesus used to send people to their final destination.
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    He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

    What does "having act of service justified before God" mean? I've never heard of it nor read anything about that in scripture. James is talking about eternal judgement. Look at his first example in the context. James gives an example of a brother or sister in need. When we see that need and...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    Sorry, I should have mentioned I was replying to this part of the verse you posted. but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: I was pointing out that what John was talking about, baptized...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    I suggest to you what John is talking about only happened twice. Look at what John says there. Baptize with the HS. Please consider. John said Jesus would baptize with the HS so this is looking forward. Jesus tells the apostles they would be baptized with the HS shortly, still looking...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    I'm sorry, it's hard for me to get my points across most of the time. When you say I was baptized after I was saved in truth, that is saying baptism is not part of the salvation process. I suggest to you, based on what I read in the bible, we are not saved until we are baptized in the name of...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    I can see you're as convinced that baptism is not necessary as I am that it is, so we might be wasting our time. You've got me thinking and hopefully you are to so that's a good thing. I'm sorry but I obviously can't keep up with all the information you're putting out. I feel to reply to that...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    If it's ok with you, because of the length of this I'm going to focus on your baptism comments because I believe baptism completes the conversion process. We can get into the works vs. faith debate some other time. Let me ask you, can we be saved if we do not repent and confess? Being...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    I agree the truth matters and I believe how one is saved is the very most important answer we need to get right. I disagree with your view on baptism so it is not part of salvation, would you mind start with answering, what must I do to be saved? And how would you support that with scripture.
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    Thanks for your comment. That is a good way to put it. I might also phrase it, those who are baptized have believed. Like those added on Pentecost, only those who were baptized were added and therefore believed the message. I liked you other post and agreed with it a lot. I'm not sure your...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    Thank you for the well thought out reply. You've given me a lot to digest and respond to. I will gladly do so but it will take some time. Since I don't have the time right now, I would like to challenge this one point for now. Jesus does mention it. The reason baptism isn't mentioned in...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    I suggest it is not a sign of being saved. No where in scripture are we told it's "an outward showing" or it's a sign. It is how we are added to Christ and are therefore saved. If baptism comes after being saved, Jesus would have said so, but He doesn't. Do you believe this The one who...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    What I've been shown is people have somehow been convinced not to believe what Jesus says. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved I put my trust in Jesus' words. This baptism discussion looks familiar to me God: for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Satan...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    You told me what you say but you haven't proved it by scripture. IF to believe is all that is required, when Jesus instituted water baptism He would have said, "whoever believes will be saved" but that isn't what He said. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, Words are how...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    John 6 and John the Baptist were before the gospel. Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, 2 and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to...
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    How does one receive the benefits? What must I do to be saved?
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    Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?

    I disagree. If that were the case, Paul wouldn't have included the qualifier "of the law". He's dealing with people going back to the law. For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. 2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept...