I am a Seventh Day Adventist, Ask Me.

My first reaction would honestly be to say that the burning bush wasn't God, but He spoke through the bush.

Please understand I need something concrete before I could ever even attempt to wrap my mind around something like that. I can not in any way affirm that God is or has ever been an angel of any kind. It should have read "and God appeared as a bush to Moses" not "a messenger" or "an angel." that signifies something other than the actual individual. Furthermore God speaks through others, so that Him speaking out of the midst of someone or something else is not unlikely. I've seen it happen in real life.

Well I did not say the bush was God only the Angel of the lord that appeared in the bush.

Exo 3:2 And the angel (messenger) of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush[/B]: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
Exo 3:3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.
Exo 3:4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.

And the voice that came from the bush was Christ (Gods) voice. The voice brings the message.
The bible is the word of God bread of life.Jesus is the bread of life. Which brings us the message.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Hey no worries its not a salvation issue if you ask me. But I must say you are trusting someones translation of the bible how do you think they got it in the English. Anyways it not a bad thing to look in to what words mean.
Just remember that the translators where sinful men too. God bless thanks for the true questions! And thank you for being real with me.

for sure, I appreciate the conversation I don't know how to explain my worries. It's not that I worry about salvation. That's never really what drives me. I want to make my daddy proud I want to do His work. It's not that I think we shouldn't dig deep into scripture, I just think there are limits. I know that to some extent I have to rest on mans interpretations. But all I need is a trustworthy outline. For example, the scripture shows me where the wall is, The Holy Spirit reveals the detail on the bricks.

The understanding doesn't come from the book right? it comes from God.


its' been a pleasure talking to you

I know that this has been mentioned, but I will try to explain a little more.


Exo 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

Notice that the angel of the Lord is "out of the midst of the bush". as has been said the word angel means messenger. we can not always read this as an angelic being. this would be untrue to the text and the meaning of the word.

notice verse 4

Exo 3:4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.

The text says that the "Lord" saw, or "Jehovah saw and then it says "God called" this word God Elohim which is another name for God in the plural. So it is according to the text God who speaks or calls. notice from where, the midst of the bush.

according to the text it was Jehovah who spoke form the bush and the angel of the lord is mentioned as the one who is there. Now remember that angel means messenger.

so who is the greatest messenger of God? Jesus. in fact further down in the passage God says this to Moses:

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

God calls himself the I AM, this is a term that denotes eternal existence, no matter where you are in time God is.

Now note the words of Jesus:

Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

See John got this, Jesus claimed to be the God who spoke to Moses.

Even the Jews understood this claim and this is why they wanted to stone him in verse 59.

This is also why God goes by the name Elohim which is a plural name for God. denoting more than one. thus the Angel of the Lord here is one of the persons of the Godhead, We know from John that it is Jesus before he came to earth as a human to save us.

hope that helps blessings.

this is the feast days of the Lord all israel males were to appear before the Lord.

Exodus 23

14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year.
15 Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty
16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field.
17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord God.

Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread (this is pretty self explanatory

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this has nothing to do with keeping the sabbath. every time you eat bread you break it.

Now, as far as the Sabbath. From my understanding the Sabbath was strictly resrticted to the Israelites. Ez 20:12 12Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy.... No one else was required to keep it. Only God's chosen people.

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the sabbath day is part of the creation Adam, Eve, and their children was taught the sabbath.


Genesis 4:6-8

King James Version (KJV)

6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.


what is sin?
1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

they knew the commandments even the sabbath day

guess what

Adam, eve, cain and abel even Abraham were not Israelites

they kept the Law

When the Law of Moses was fulfilled at the cross we were not longer required to keep the Sabbath.
God said he would make a new covenant unlike the one given to Israel, and there would be a change in laws.

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where is this written? what law was fulfllled at the cross? the commandments were not fulfilled at the cross if this is where you are going.

If we are still to keep the Sabbath then why did Paul say Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. Col 2:16?

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what do this verse or chapter have to do with keeping the sabbath?

I dont go to a SDA's church. I don't personally know anyone that is a SDA's (that I'm aware of) and that is why I'm in these threads....to find out what is true and what is just simply bad second hand information.

Jesus kept the Sabbath when he walked in the flesh

Luke 4:15-17

King James Version (KJV)

15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

Long after Jesus death and resurrection the sabbath was being kept and Paul taught the gentiles your forefathers to keep the sabbath. I thas never changed, the sabbath is part of the creation.

Acts 17:1-3

Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to
Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:
2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

Paul taught the gentiles to keep the sabbath day

Acts 13:42
And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

No worries. Hey I am sure you can find a local church if you tried. I my self travel a lot and I always just look them up on line. That's one of the things I love best about the church. I can go to any part of the world and find a church. And I always know what is being studied because of the Sabbath school quarterly that keeps everyone on the same page. They are free online to all.

Simple and short answer: Ellen G. White is stated as being the founder of SDA and if you do research on her you will find that she contradicted the Bible and added to it. Here's one of the many sources you will find when you research Ellen G. White Click here >>>Ellen G. White and The Seventh-Day Adventists

Every thing Adventist teach comes from the bible only. This is only your Opinion and second hand info.

All bible questions are welcome. I am here to study the bible not feed this propaganda.

Quick question is not Ellen G. White the founder of SDA?

Do you have anything to ask about the bible?

Posting this again some have forgotten what the tread is about.
Originally Posted by gotime
Hi, as I said I am a Seventh Day Adventist. The only reason this question answer post is here is because I have seen many people throw things at my Faith without really knowing what we believe.

So I will be answering any Bible questions you have if I can. Repeat BIBLE questions. Everything I believe and that my Church teaches is firmly based in Scripture and no where else.

Now I have a lot on my plate so please be patient with me. This post is not designed to argue but rather help those who wish to better understand our position. You do not have to agree with me in any way. I will however be using the bible to answer any questions. so if you need to discuss anything with me about a topic that you think I am wrong in then feel free. but use your Bible. I will not pay any heed to those who come in here and rant on their soap box without scripture to back them up.

In other words, lets be Christian about this. I have no need nor want to put others down. and will not respond to put downs and unchristian behaviour.

One other thing. I am a Seventh Day Adventist Pastor, and one thing I have learnt is that most Professed Seventh Day Adventists do not know what we actually believe. Why do I say this? Because While you may have read things about us and done some study. chances are, you don't understand half as much about our teaching as you think you do.

I do not pretend to know everything about how other faiths believe even though I used to be a pentecostal. I am not ignorant enough to think that I know them because I once was one. so please afford me the same respect.

That being said, May God bless us all as we draw closer to Him in truth and in Spirit.

But we must not forget

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Joh_7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.


Joh_8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.


1Th_5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.