Alcohol Damages Health

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Not at all! Deep down I firmly believe that you are clueless to His word!!

I’m defending His word, you’re the one ranting on….
No you're not and you know. Not sure why you are going with this. Bored maybe? Like to argue? Regardless, at least your sphere of influence isn't much.
Take care
 
No you're not and you know. Not sure why you are going with this. Bored maybe? Like to argue? Regardless, at least your sphere of influence isn't much.
Take care

Yes, I’m bored with people on this thread who are willfully clueless. It’s a minority!
 
All of the stats you listed are also 100% related to poor decisions. Alcohol has never done any of those things on its own. Besides statistics with no quoted source are worthless. I assume you completely made them up. I know for sure Americans spend over 200 billion a year on alcohol so you’re way off. And according to the NIAAA alcohol related suicides is only 1 in 4 so you’re 50% off on that one.

The alcohol industry also provides over 4 million jobs in the U.S.

I got the statistics from a Driver Education teacher friend. And because of alcohol, we employ a lot more cops.:D

Would we be better off as a society if alcohol were eliminated? Yes or no?
 
I got the statistics from a Driver Education teacher friend. And because of alcohol, we employ a lot more cops.:D

Would we be better off as a society if alcohol were eliminated? Yes or no?
Would be better off without evil and poor decisions. Being better off without alcohol is like saying we’d be better off without guns, cars, internet, and any other inanimate object that someone can use the wrong way. We can look back thousands of years to when they had none of these things. Was the world safer then? No
 
I got the statistics from a Driver Education teacher friend. And because of alcohol, we employ a lot more cops.:D

Would we be better off as a society if alcohol were eliminated? Yes or no?

Guns aren’t the causative agents in homicides either. Guns don’t murder/ kill. Same logic!

I’m guessing everyone should suck on binkys till they know God’s laws.
 
I think we’re arguing with the same crowd that thinks guns kill, so everybody should take out their guns and put them in a box for now. Guns don’t kill!! People who think guns kill are barking up the wrong tree; logic is absent.

Drinking and drunkenness aren’t the same either. All Jesus was warning against is drunkenness. Otherwise, why do you think He made the best wine in the world (and this was acknowledged via the master of the wedding banquet). Jesus, His disciples, and the Jews drank wine, among other things, hence His warning for overindulgence.
 
The Pharisee's, back in the day, called out sinners too.

So did the Lord Jesus and His Apostles.



And it is quite clear we are forgiven of our sin.

If you think all future sins are automatically forgiven, is this why you live in sin and refer to yourself as a sinner?
Claiming when one sins they do not reap corruption is mocking God (see Gal 6:7,8). The Lord did warn us there would be mockers in the end times. Apparently some of these mockers are here mocking God.

If one does not forsake and confess their sin, they are still on the hook for those sins.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Obeying and acting on Proverbs 28:13 and 1 John 1:9 is sowing to the Spirit reaping life.

Those full of pride and ignorance of what God's Word teaches who refuse to forsake and confess their sin are sadly containing in corruption walking after the flesh being spiritually dead and separated from the Lord by their own choosing.


We'd be better off without alcohol. Period. Does the following sound like a good time?

•83% of all fire deaths are alcohol related
•68% of all drowning is alcohol related
•80% of all suicides are alcohol related
•40% of all industrial accidents are alcohol related
•86% of all murders are alcohol related
•65% of all child abuse cases are alcohol related

The leading cause of mental retardation is drinking alcohol during pregnancy.

Americans alone spend over $50,000,000,000.00 (50 billion) each year on alcohol.

Well you know the carnal minded among us will continue advocating for alcohol consumption because these people are not very bright and obviously don't take God's Word very seriously at all.



What does the bible say about alcohol?
No such thing as moderation?

Yes do please show where the Lord instructs His people to drink the booze.

In what chapter and verse do we see Jesus and/or His Apostles giving us that call to action?

Where do we see "and thou shalt drinketh thy booze and be a booze drinker for Jesus"?


Still waiting on you answer the question.

Still waiting for you to acknowledge what God's Word says and stop living in sin!

1 Corinthians 15:34
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

2 Peter 2:14,15
Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

Romans 6:1,2
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Romans 11:22
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou
continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Romans 8:13,14
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.



All of the stats you listed are also 100% related to poor decisions.

Yes, claiming to be a Christian and advocating for drinking the booze is most definitely a very poor decision


Why do you subject others to regulations??

Why are you advocating for drinking the booze?

Are you like this other fellow who proudly tells everyone he is a sinner living in sin?

You fellas should repent of your sinful behavior and get right with the Lord Jesus!


-"No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities."
I Timothy 5:23 NKJV

Not directions for the entire Body of Christ and notice the word "little" as this is a recommendation for medicinal purposes most likely due to there not being clean water readily available meaning a couple of spoon fulls not a few glasses of wine like today when so called "christians" are getting buzzed which is drunkenness.

These advocates for drinking the booze ain't fooling the Lord. They like to get their buzz on and will continue to fight with anyone trying to help them understand this is sinful behavior they should depart from.

It's always very telling who the drunks are in threads like this as they are the one continually arguing for the right to drink the booze.
 
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Yes, I’m bored with people on this thread who are willfully clueless. It’s a minority!

So can we then expect you to spend your time in other threads and not return to this one?

Or do you not really mean what you say?

Just asking since in my experience the booze drinkers rarely ever mean what they with all their booze drinking and related vices
 
I think we’re arguing with the same crowd that thinks guns kill, so everybody should take out their guns and put them in a box for now. Guns don’t kill!! People who think guns kill are barking up the wrong tree; logic is absent.

Drinking and drunkenness aren’t the same either. All Jesus was warning against is drunkenness. Otherwise, why do you think He made the best wine in the world (and this was acknowledged via the master of the wedding banquet). Jesus, His disciples, and the Jews drank wine, among other things, hence His warning for overindulgence.

Turning water into wine is a picture of the OT example of Moses turning water into blood. The picture is sin. It goes back to the fall of man in the garden, but that's a long discussion (the blood of the grape).
 
Because the carnal mind says, "I can handle it."

The carnal mind is separated from the Lord and is no longer saved

Romans 8:6,7
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Those walking after the flesh are back under condemnation

Romans 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh
 
So can we then expect you to spend your time in other threads and not return to this one?

Or do you not really mean what you say?

Just asking since in my experience the booze drinkers rarely ever mean what they with all their booze drinking and related vices

You’re just a man-made traditionalist willfully ignorant of understanding His word, and pointing the finger to others who actually do understand. Nothing else to be said here!

What should I do? Wipe off the dust from my feet and move on…..
 
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So did the Lord Jesus and His Apostles.





If you think all future sins are automatically forgiven, is this why you live in sin and refer to yourself as a sinner?
Claiming when one sins they do not reap corruption is mocking God (see Gal 6:7,8). The Lord did warn us there would be mockers in the end times. Apparently some of these mockers are here mocking God.

If one does not forsake and confess their sin, they are still on the hook for those sins.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Obeying and acting on Proverbs 28:13 and 1 John 1:9 is sowing to the Spirit reaping life.

Those full of pride and ignorance of what God's Word teaches who refuse to forsake and confess their sin are sadly containing in corruption walking after the flesh being spiritually dead and separated from the Lord by their own choosing.




Well you know the carnal minded among us will continue advocating for alcohol consumption because these people are not very bright and obviously don't take God's Word very seriously at all.





Yes do please show where the Lord instructs His people to drink the booze.

In what chapter and verse do we see Jesus and/or His Apostles giving us that call to action?

Where do we see "and thou shalt drinketh thy booze and be a booze drinker for Jesus"?




Still waiting for you to acknowledge what God's Word says and stop living in sin!

1 Corinthians 15:34
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

2 Peter 2:14,15
Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

Romans 6:1,2
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Romans 11:22
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou
continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Romans 8:13,14
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.





Yes, claiming to be a Christian and advocating for drinking the booze is most definitely a very poor decision




Why are you advocating for drinking the booze?

Are you like this other fellow who proudly tells everyone he is a sinner living in sin?

You fellas should repent of your sinful behavior and get right with the Lord Jesus!




Not directions for the entire Body of Christ and notice the word "little" as this is a recommendation for medicinal purposes most likely due to there not being clean water readily available meaning a couple of spoon fulls not a few glasses of wine like today when so called "christians" are getting buzzed which is drunkenness.

These advocates for drinking the booze ain't fooling the Lord. They like to get their buzz on and will continue to fight with anyone trying to help them understand this is sinful behavior they should depart from.

It's always very telling who the drunks are in threads like this as they are the one continually arguing for the right to drink the booze.
Uh huh.
 
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Just don't drink or smoke. It don't matter what you smoke, it's damaging your lungs. Alcohol causes the enlargement of the heart, which is worse and more common condition than the liver damage. People die from alcohol because of enlarged hearts.

Smoking causes OSPD, and you will suffer greatly. Weed causes OSPD. So does all those herbs. Black Lung!

DOWN with WEED, DOWN with BOOZE.

They cause mental problems too, both alcohol and weed.