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James456
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Probably more likely he was sleeping with his Father's wife, not his actual mother
Loss of salvation???
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Yes, after we have been reborn we sure will sin so it's not the the backslider but all of us need to repent daily.
1 John 1:8-10
King James Version
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
We do not need to get baptized again, just repent and coffess those sins to JESUS.
Something I've noticed here among a few,thank God it appears to be just a few so far, is that they will imply or state outright a member to whom they post is not intelligent enough to understand them.
It's an old trick usually perpetrated by those who are what they accuse in others.
So,if they imply or state a person isn't able to comprehend,they themselves are off the hook on that regard.
There appear to be a few minor children playing adult here as well.
Thank you, none of us will know it all!!!
We should always be under consturction with open hearts so JESUS can guide us.
GOD BLESS YOU.
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James456
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BTW
Once you have heartfelt consciousness of sin before God you are in a saved state, that is proof you are in covenant.
If you find yourself stopping on a back country road?
And ask a farmer in the field how you can get to old man Johnson's house?
When you follow his directions?
It is by faith that you do.
Faith is not some divine magic.
It is a system for doing certain things that all normal men possess.
AND??????????
That made it OK?
Again. Why do we not see Paul warning about how he was to lose his salvation?
You have totally lost me. There is no act by man that is the cause or needed for salvation. We are saved by grace.
However, belief and faith that comes from being saved is a volitional act, it becomes our desire. We are changed, and with that our desires change as well.
Just as Abraham and Rahab were justified by works which were most pleasing to God and were the result of His work in them.
Did they desire to please God [volitional]. Sure they did, because He was at work in them!
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James456
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Of course it didn't make it OK, he was thrown out of the church for a while
Why are you asking me that question?
He was thrown out to accomplish what?
"To be disciplined."
Disciplined like a son.
I was simply continuing the flow of the thought.
I would never ask that because I don't know old man Johnson.
As long as you get my point.
I do not care if you avoid acknowledging it to me.
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James456
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Romans 4:1–5 — Paul explains it
“Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness…
To him that worketh not, but believeth… his faith is counted for righteousness.”
Paul is crystal clear:
Not works
Not effort
Faith alone credited as righteousness
Hebrews 11:31 —
“By faith the harlot Rahab perished not… when she had received the spies with peace.”
The Bible tells you plainly why she was spared:By faith
James 2:25 — Works reveal faith
“Likewise also was not Rahab justified by works…?”
James’ point (same as with Abraham):
Her actions proved her faith was real
They did not create it
She acted because she believed.
I can think anything I like, without being baptized to remove my sins I would be lost.
Of course we need the Holy Ghost as well.
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James456
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I spoke in tongues prior to being baptised in water, as did Cornelius and his household
I also had heartfelt consciousness of sin before God before I was baptised in water or spoke in tongues, so I was in covenant at that time.
What ever you wish...
Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children.
For what children are not disciplined by their father?
If you are not disciplined—and everyone undergoes discipline—
then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all." Heb 12:7-8
BTW:For a chuckle?
You should see how the authorized KJV worded that one.
AMEN, I was baptized first, then filled.
I think GOD talks to us and leads us before we even think about him.
But since HIS word is clear we cannot be saved without both.
When you say you were in a covenant with HIM what do you mean? You were reborn?
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James456
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This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.”[b]
17 Then he adds:
“Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.
That's the covenant
Through the law we become conscious of sin Romans3:20
Therefore, if you have heartfelt consciousness of sin before God, it is proof God's laws have been placed within you, and you have a saviour from sin/your sins and lawless deeds will be remembered no more. At that point you are in a saved state
I hate technology. something is different and I cant "click" on responses to see them!? You mentioned me........And that is the only response that I can click on to see.