I am reminded of the feast of Jacob’s desire to marry Rachael after serving seven years, but instead lay with Leah that night and was married to her, not Rachael.
Marriage question
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I am reminded of the feast of Jacob’s desire to marry Rachael after serving seven years, but instead lay with Leah that night and was married to her, not Rachael.
If I may add to your thoughts…
What a “public” wedding ceremony adds is accountability…
Before God, to friends and family, that you have committed to this one person for life and invited both the support and input from others for when things get difficult.
In the eyes of the world, the idea is "shack up' & if you dont like it, you can 'pack up" with no divorce.
I think ResidentAlien pretty much nailed it. Inthe eyes of the Lord that man was NOT her husband.
If you want to be a christian, then do it Christ's way. Anything else is sin, period.
No amount of sugarcoating will change a thing.
If you love her, lead her to Christ, If she refuses, leave her.
You will be surprised when you honor God most what He will do for you.
I think ResidentAlien pretty much nailed it. Inthe eyes of the Lord that man was NOT her husband.
If you want to be a christian, then do it Christ's way. Anything else is sin, period.
No amount of sugarcoating will change a thing.
If you love her, lead her to Christ, If she refuses, leave her.
You will be surprised when you honor God most what He will do for you.
One other thing I'd like to add....
Just because you don't have a marriage license doesn't mean much...
Easy in and easy out of living arrangements....
Except for your heart.
Each time you live with someone and you break up there is zero difference between that and an actual divorce. Because it only seems less complicated to leave or be left has zero bearing on the number of callous left on your heart from each failed relationship.
There is something worse than a broken heart....and that's a heart so hard from calluses that it can't be broken anymore. Meaning you also no longer can love or feel much of anything.
And you want to guard your heart against anything like that from ever happening.
If your relationship is serious and not some sort of game because you already have a hard heart....then guard what remains.
Just because you don't have a marriage license doesn't mean much...
Easy in and easy out of living arrangements....
Except for your heart.
Each time you live with someone and you break up there is zero difference between that and an actual divorce. Because it only seems less complicated to leave or be left has zero bearing on the number of callous left on your heart from each failed relationship.
There is something worse than a broken heart....and that's a heart so hard from calluses that it can't be broken anymore. Meaning you also no longer can love or feel much of anything.
And you want to guard your heart against anything like that from ever happening.
If your relationship is serious and not some sort of game because you already have a hard heart....then guard what remains.
The Bible also does not mention anything about watching porn, driving above the speed limit, pick pocketing, jay walking (no pun intended), etc. But if you really are saved and have been given a new heart, your life should be showing fruits of the Spirit and obedience to Christ. If I were you, I would read your Bible (the entire Bible) and study it well. The Bible is very clear on marriage and it's purpose, and why it's God honoring. I also hope you are not trying to find excuses to get around your sin. If that's the case, you need to repent and seek Christ for forgiveness and make some changes to your life. If you truly "love" your girlfriend then be a man and propose to her and be the example of Christ to her.
Adding to the wedding comments; yes, a wedding if basically a public announcement (besides the legal paperwork) to friends and family of your union. I understand that it's not very fashionable for some and i also understand that it can be expensive so the only thing i can say is try to plan things out the best way you can.
I waited for my wedding day almost 10 years after i met my wife, and the timing was perfect because we invited over 300 people who some of them are no longer with us now. So the timing was perfect and it is the best memory of your life when you look back at pictures and videos.
I waited for my wedding day almost 10 years after i met my wife, and the timing was perfect because we invited over 300 people who some of them are no longer with us now. So the timing was perfect and it is the best memory of your life when you look back at pictures and videos.
We have to follow man's laws also, as long as they go with GODS rule's not against it.
So if your breaking man's laws, you are breaking GOD'S laws.
There are no marriage vows in the Bible. I have not found any. Man has pulled them together from the bible. Using the mystery of marriage Paul speaks of. It is God that will never forsake anyone, ever. People do and will and have, and continue to this present day. Even if do not want to.
Romans 7, I do what I do not want to do, what is happening? I want to, yet I do not do it, why? We are first born of flesh and blood that is not perfect. Only by Son as risen for everyone we are now viewed new, made perfect for us by Son's done work in his resurrection.
To seen new as perfect from Father for us to now learn new from any and all mistakes made. We, the people are now seen as perfect by God Father for us all Col 1:21-23 might decide to be thankful and stand in thanksgiving and praise, not ever wanting to harm anyone else ever again. Be willing g to learn and you both will.
Anyone that Just has sex with each other I see what Paul says in 1 Cor 6 you are married as one as soon as you have sex.
Now, prior to becoming one with one another in the discussion you two make, is between you two.
The marriage certificate under Law, gives you both rights protection if one leave and the other is left in need
My wife and I married legally according to society and Church Law after we lived together first. Now by society we are legally married and can see it as trapped and cannot get out of it. or can see benefits from it in taxes and so forth. There is good and bad in everything here on earth. God uses it all to reveal how to abide in his love and mercy to all. It is a personal relationship not a church relationship.
There is good and bad in this world in anything and everything. I am elated you both have chosen to be exclusive. Amen!
Authorized (King James) Version
1 Corinthians 6
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. 14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. 15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. 16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
I do not like the word Harlot. Rather a person that is promiscuous, which God continues to love in God's mercy and truth of Son for everyone. I hear you both are not that, Wow, thank you Lord,
Now for the rest in whatever discussion you both make, whether or not you get married legally by Law of the earth or not.
Do it willingly or else troubles will happen deeper, wider, higher if do marry unwillingly. not willing by either one of you splits the oneness of the two of you. that you both have presently.
When my Wife and I married over 42 years ago now. We both willingly said I do, without making any promises over it
A simple yes is good enough, to make a promise is from evil.
I trust Father and Son living in you both by his done work for us all, will teach you and that you will agree what is best for the two of you to do. God loves us all, otherwise that cross of Son would not have ever happened
in the Bible, there isn't any command or order to be married. in 1 of the Corinthian books, we are taught that it is better to be married than to burn with passion. marriage is a sacred lifelong God given covenant created by God. marriage should be a permanent bond which is God designed, not to be separated. being married under God's laws results in the best happiest marriage while obeying God. a holy union under God in a Christian understanding is a positive way to view this. sexual relationships outside of marriage is sin!!!!! it is adultery which is friendship with the world.
You are spot on... I am one of those that believe what you just asked. Biblical marriage emphasizes a covenantal bond established before God and often acknowledged by the community, while contemporary legal marriage is grounded in civil law and, for Christians (us), includes submission to governmental authority
Lol I like always no matter what I think I know.. went searching. Both places used the same two verses yet one stated there really is no biblical.. blah blah blah where as the other ooh no its clear God said it and must be married and again used the same two verses. Haha
Its not what we think.. do you no offense here had bible? You can search on line for all this. Well we have had sin since the start and God makes is very clear how He stands on man and woman. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh". So this man with man or woman with woman.. you see and understand.. to GOD its husband with wife and they become one flesh.
Does she always believe in trust in Jesus Christ know Him as lord?
The question is - Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?
I was wanting to know what bible verses say not what state governments say
Can you show from the bible we are not already married showing we are actually in sin?
And why does it matter ultimately if I'm still going to go to heaven regardless of how I live?
In the other thread several people have already stated that being saved is not dependent upon our lifestyle
I found this in an internet search
The Bible advises that if a believer is married to an unbeliever who is willing to stay in the marriage, they should not seek a divorce (1 Corinthians 7:12-13). The believer is said to sanctify the unbelieving spouse, and the marriage can be a means for the unbeliever to come to faith (1 Corinthians 7:14).
We were together before I got saved so your post is not reflective of other things the bible is saying on this topic.
I keep hearing the answer to most questions are already in the bible which is authored by God.
That's why I'm posting the question since I'm kinda new to being a Christian.
Please share chapter and verse for all this. Thanks.
Doesn't that settle this meaning I'm not actually living in sin as some people are saying?
Did people try top tell you that you were living in sin and were not really born again?
Where does the bible talk about this?
I heard somewhere in Jesus' teachings that it's adultery to be married multiple times and God only accept the first marriage and you cannot get remarried unless your first spouse has died.
If true I know some church going folk that are living in sin being on their 2nd or 3rd spouse!
God knows you better than anyone here or elsewhere, That's why I recommend you talk or pray to Him about your situation.
The most important relationship you will ever have is with God., so you should cultivate that. You're a new Christian and need to learn to recognize His voice and what He is all about. These are the last days so it's crucial.
He will guide you if let Him and will give you wise advice through the Holy Spirit and through the Bible He inspired.
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On another topic, it would be great if you share your testimony! How did you come to know God is real and died for you? What is your salvation story?
No, because i don't hang out with legalists.
But i hope you're serious about the matters of the heart though. I knew i was serious with my wife, the rest were a matter of technicality for us. She didn't even change her last name for many years.
You seek affirmation for your choices. I will not provide that.
And when is it fornication then?
As well, you are also saying a person who has sex with a prostitute is married to the prostitute?
But according to you if you have sex with a prostitute you go to Heaven still right?
OSAS strikes again!
Three things to consider: first, per NT standard, divorce is forbidden (1 Cor. 7:10-11), remarriage is adultery (Matt. 12:9), if you marry her you're stuck with her for life; second, marriage is not only the union of two individuals but of two families, you're probably gonna deal with her kins and her yours; third, ask yourself if you're father material, the primary function of marriage is to breed and raise kids.