yes, always ready\y, willing and able in trust to God Father and risen Son, thank you
Job 1:7, in or on?
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yes, always ready\y, willing and able in trust to God Father and risen Son, thank you
I believe that the last ten verses of Revelation 19 contain all that we can know of that day.
I definitely think we're on the threshold of the day of the Lord. But predicting the exact day isn't what I'm heading towards here.
Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
the words "from going to and fro in the earth" are translated from two Hebrew words:
"from going to and fro" translated from šûṭ which means to go or rove about;
"in the earth" translated from 'ereṣ which means earth.
so the words "in" or "on" or "throughout" were added by translators to provide readability or understanding.
In Luke 4, when satan tempted the Lord Jesus Christ, he said ...
Luke 4:5-6 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
When Adam and Eve sinned, the dominion granted to them by God (Gen 1:26-28) was forfeited ... iow "delivered" to satan.
satan is referred to as the god of this world (2 Cor 4:4). However, his "rule" is within certain bounds. satan is restrained by God ... satan is not everywhere present as God is. Additionally, satan and his minions are not greater than He Who dwells within the born again believer (1 John 4:4).
satan is also referred to as the prince of the power of the air (Eph 2:2) and all mankind is born under the sphere of influence of satan and his minions. Once a person is born again, satan no longer has any right or claim upon him or her; however, the born again one can be tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive (Eph 4:14) ... which is why God instructs us to study His Word. We are to diligently study as workmen who are not ashamed; we are to rightly divide the word of truth (2 Tim 2:15).
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apparently so
Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
We know that Satan beheld all high things(Job 41:34) and that is why he observed the meeting between God and the sons of God. If Satan was thrown down he would no longer have access to heavenly events. Therefore Satan would not have the same freedom.
Satan operates in the realm of darkness, his works are hidden, and the is preferrable to him. Hence, the vague answer, "Meh, I've been around." I have come to the conclusion that it is this 'man of lawlessness' which 'restrains himself' so that he isn't revealed, until that time, of course, that he is revealed by the brightness that is coming. And this will be his destruction.
Nice to see you again Mem.
I agree with your thoughts. What a better way to stay concealed than being inside the earth.
It's that time of his revelation that I'm attempting to work towards. I'm seeing distinct signs that God told us to watch for. Do you think we're supposed to talk about it? Almost all the called out ones won't see it coming.
They won't see it coming because they won't talk about obvious things happening right in front of them. These obvious things are hurdles in this discussion, and i won't drag others over them.
Which is perfectly legitimate in the context of a worldview that distinguishes ”in heaven" (16:17) from “in the earth” (2:2, KJV).
yes ... it is wholly apparent ... and yes God says that the day will overtake some as a thief in the night, but not all will be overtaken:
1 Thessalonians 5:2-8
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
we see the goings on ... what was once done in secret is now done openly and without shame. no longer hidden, but proudly proclaimed and if truth is spoken to the lie, the truth is buried, hidden from sight, and the truth speaker is negatively labelled.
I do not believe it is a good thing to ignore the signs, nor is it a good thing to not give warning. Knowing the Book opens the eyes to what's going on and also settles the heart because we know God oversees all and there is nothing going on that He is not aware of. All prophecies in Scripture shall be fulfilled and while most have been fulfilled, there are some prophecies which remain unfulfilled.
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Well said renweddaybyday,
I think I have a good bead on how things are going to go down. Lots of pieces from different people.
I spent 38 years on the stumbling block of faith and warning others to no avail, seemingly.
Now I've brought this topic up for two reasons. To see if anyone is brave enough to talk about the obvious pieces to this puzzle that are a no go in the "church world."
Someone is going to have to stand up and clear the first hurdle, for me to keep moving forward.
The second part is to see who fights against it, showing that part of them.
out Lord said to the Serpent -
Genesis 3:14
On your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust all the days of your life.
and to the man - Genesis 3:19
For dust you [are,] and to dust you shall return.
this speaks of course the flesh of the man, not the spirit of the breath of life in him. the proximity of these two mentions of dust can't be ignored, nor the fact that this discussion takes place in the context of the introduction of death into the world.sin results in death, and this is the separating of the spirit from man, described here as man returning to dust.
the author of sin, hence of death, is condemned to eat dust for all the days of his life. he is consumed by, and consumes death - the last enemy to be destroyed
I actually just ran across that word in my Strongs 20 minutes ago. death, "thanatos" in the Greek, means separation of soul and body.
Thanks for that.
this dust eating, you could say he is a "devourer of men" - but he can destroy the body of dust, not the soul.