Common doctrine for marriage in error?

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Mark 12:18-27 King James Version
18 Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying,
19 Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.
21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.
22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.
23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

So I know the common doctrine is that this teaches that in the resurrected state there is no longer any marriage. I'm just wondering if this is a misreading? If Jesus is talking about people being as the angels in heaven only when they rise then this leaves open the possibility for there being marriage in the future (and even in heaven I suppose). I'm not saying this is what these verses are saying but I can certainly read them this way and I was hoping for input from others as I know the common doctrine on this issue is that there will be no marriage in the future. Excuse my poor writing but what allows for this is that Jesus could have been letting the Sadducees know that they didn't know the scriptures since they misused them here and that there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry at the resurrection since she was the last brother's wife. It's a delicate reading, but I have no trouble reading it this way, I just don't know if it's the truth. Luke is relatively easy to read this way and Matthew can be read this way too, but it helps to keep in mind that here in Mark it says that they are talking about when people rise, not the entire "resurrection".

Luke 20:32-36 King James Version
32 Last of all the woman died also.
33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Verse 35 seems to be saying that those who take part in the resurrection will not be able to marry, but it can still be read as not saying this if Jesus was stressing "and the resurrection from the dead". It depends on how Jesus said it.

Matthew 22:28-30 King James Version
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Again, Jesus might have been letting the Sadducees know that they erred since they didn't know the scriptures they were using (if you read the scriptures they use they use them differently than how they were written), and might have been saying in the resurrection there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry since she would still be the last brother's wife along with saying that in the resurrection (when they rise) people are like the angels of God in heaven, not marrying each other, but being raised from the dead.

Again, I'm not trying to make a doctrine or anything, I'm just wondering if the common doctrine is in error in light of what I wrote, since this can be read another way. Basically, I'm just looking for information or discussion and not trying to put forth anything as the truth.
 
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Mark 12:18-27 King James Version
18 Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying,
19 Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.
21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.
22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.
23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

So I know the common doctrine is that this teaches that in the resurrected state there is no longer any marriage. I'm just wondering if this is a misreading? If Jesus is talking about people being as the angels in heaven only when they rise then this leaves open the possibility for there being marriage in the future (and even in heaven I suppose). I'm not saying this is what these verses are saying but I can certainly read them this way and I was hoping for input from others as I know the common doctrine on this issue is that there will be no marriage in the future. Excuse my poor writing but what allows for this is that Jesus could have been letting the Sadducees know that they didn't know the scriptures since they misused them here and that there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry at the resurrection since she was the last brother's wife. It's a delicate reading, but I have no trouble reading it this way, I just don't know if it's the truth. Luke is relatively easy to read this way and Matthew can be read this way too, but it helps to keep in mind that here in Mark it says that they are talking about when people rise, not the entire "resurrection".

Luke 20:32-36 King James Version
32 Last of all the woman died also.
33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Verse 35 seems to be saying that those who take part in the resurrection will not be able to marry, but it can still be read as not saying this if Jesus was stressing "and the resurrection from the dead". It depends on how Jesus said it.

Matthew 22:28-30 King James Version
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Again, Jesus might have been letting the Sadducees know that they erred since they didn't know the scriptures they were using (if you read the scriptures they use they use them differently than how they were written), and might have been saying in the resurrection there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry since she would still be the last brother's wife along with saying that in the resurrection (when they rise) people are like the angels of God in heaven, not marrying each other, but being raised from the dead.

Again, I'm not trying to make a doctrine or anything, I'm just wondering if the common doctrine is in error in light of what I wrote, since this can be read another way. Basically, I'm just looking for information or discussion and not trying to put forth anything as the truth.
Who will be your spouse on the other side of your resurrection from the grave?
 
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Mark 12:18-27 King James Version
18 Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying,
19 Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.
21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.
22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.
23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

So I know the common doctrine is that this teaches that in the resurrected state there is no longer any marriage. I'm just wondering if this is a misreading? If Jesus is talking about people being as the angels in heaven only when they rise then this leaves open the possibility for there being marriage in the future (and even in heaven I suppose). I'm not saying this is what these verses are saying but I can certainly read them this way and I was hoping for input from others as I know the common doctrine on this issue is that there will be no marriage in the future. Excuse my poor writing but what allows for this is that Jesus could have been letting the Sadducees know that they didn't know the scriptures since they misused them here and that there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry at the resurrection since she was the last brother's wife. It's a delicate reading, but I have no trouble reading it this way, I just don't know if it's the truth. Luke is relatively easy to read this way and Matthew can be read this way too, but it helps to keep in mind that here in Mark it says that they are talking about when people rise, not the entire "resurrection".

Luke 20:32-36 King James Version
32 Last of all the woman died also.
33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Verse 35 seems to be saying that those who take part in the resurrection will not be able to marry, but it can still be read as not saying this if Jesus was stressing "and the resurrection from the dead". It depends on how Jesus said it.

Matthew 22:28-30 King James Version
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Again, Jesus might have been letting the Sadducees know that they erred since they didn't know the scriptures they were using (if you read the scriptures they use they use them differently than how they were written), and might have been saying in the resurrection there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry since she would still be the last brother's wife along with saying that in the resurrection (when they rise) people are like the angels of God in heaven, not marrying each other, but being raised from the dead.

Again, I'm not trying to make a doctrine or anything, I'm just wondering if the common doctrine is in error in light of what I wrote, since this can be read another way. Basically, I'm just looking for information or discussion and not trying to put forth anything as the truth.
God's kingdom is not of this world's kingdom, that Ha Satan was running then. When Jesus came here to earth in the only perfect flesh body, born of woman, not man. Born of the Spirit of God. My way, truth and new life given in his risen Life to me from Daddy, PaPa, Father, thank you Dad
He came here to reconcile us all first as forgiven by Father to us all. To, go to Father and ask for truth, not go to others only to listen and then take it all to Father in Spirit and Truth, people, me included who only know part of truth, not the entire truths of God, being the only one good as said by Son in Matthew 19 "My Father is the only one good
We become dead to our first birth of flesh and blood, willingly. If one, anyone is not willing, then one will have a real hard time seeing through the veil in risen Son for them. Probably have to go through Law first as Paul did
thanks
There is no need for marriage in Heaven we are all One with Father and Son
 
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In heaven there will not be marriage as marriage is a contract between a consenting man, woman, and God, and is enforceable until death of one or the other. Since there is no longer any death in heaven then there can be no marriage.

It is stated that we will be like the angels. The question is - how are the angels like?

The bible makes mentioned that in heaven there will be planting of gardens, building of houses, etc. If there are no loving enduring relationships than what is the point of planting gardens and building houses?

I believe that there will be relationships similar to marriage, with physical romantic intimacy. Very possible for the creation of new life too.

Looking forward to it for sure.
 
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#6
Mark 12:18-27 King James Version
18 Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying,
19 Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.
21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.
22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.
23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

So I know the common doctrine is that this teaches that in the resurrected state there is no longer any marriage. I'm just wondering if this is a misreading? If Jesus is talking about people being as the angels in heaven only when they rise then this leaves open the possibility for there being marriage in the future (and even in heaven I suppose). I'm not saying this is what these verses are saying but I can certainly read them this way and I was hoping for input from others as I know the common doctrine on this issue is that there will be no marriage in the future. Excuse my poor writing but what allows for this is that Jesus could have been letting the Sadducees know that they didn't know the scriptures since they misused them here and that there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry at the resurrection since she was the last brother's wife. It's a delicate reading, but I have no trouble reading it this way, I just don't know if it's the truth. Luke is relatively easy to read this way and Matthew can be read this way too, but it helps to keep in mind that here in Mark it says that they are talking about when people rise, not the entire "resurrection".

Luke 20:32-36 King James Version
32 Last of all the woman died also.
33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Verse 35 seems to be saying that those who take part in the resurrection will not be able to marry, but it can still be read as not saying this if Jesus was stressing "and the resurrection from the dead". It depends on how Jesus said it.

Matthew 22:28-30 King James Version
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Again, Jesus might have been letting the Sadducees know that they erred since they didn't know the scriptures they were using (if you read the scriptures they use they use them differently than how they were written), and might have been saying in the resurrection there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry since she would still be the last brother's wife along with saying that in the resurrection (when they rise) people are like the angels of God in heaven, not marrying each other, but being raised from the dead.

Again, I'm not trying to make a doctrine or anything, I'm just wondering if the common doctrine is in error in light of what I wrote, since this can be read another way. Basically, I'm just looking for information or discussion and not trying to put forth anything as the truth.
If we're married in heaven, this is going to be really awkward for me.
 
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Mark 12:18-27 King James Version
18 Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying,
19 Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.
21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.
22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.
23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

So I know the common doctrine is that this teaches that in the resurrected state there is no longer any marriage. I'm just wondering if this is a misreading? If Jesus is talking about people being as the angels in heaven only when they rise then this leaves open the possibility for there being marriage in the future (and even in heaven I suppose). I'm not saying this is what these verses are saying but I can certainly read them this way and I was hoping for input from others as I know the common doctrine on this issue is that there will be no marriage in the future. Excuse my poor writing but what allows for this is that Jesus could have been letting the Sadducees know that they didn't know the scriptures since they misused them here and that there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry at the resurrection since she was the last brother's wife. It's a delicate reading, but I have no trouble reading it this way, I just don't know if it's the truth. Luke is relatively easy to read this way and Matthew can be read this way too, but it helps to keep in mind that here in Mark it says that they are talking about when people rise, not the entire "resurrection".

Luke 20:32-36 King James Version
32 Last of all the woman died also.
33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Verse 35 seems to be saying that those who take part in the resurrection will not be able to marry, but it can still be read as not saying this if Jesus was stressing "and the resurrection from the dead". It depends on how Jesus said it.

Matthew 22:28-30 King James Version
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Again, Jesus might have been letting the Sadducees know that they erred since they didn't know the scriptures they were using (if you read the scriptures they use they use them differently than how they were written), and might have been saying in the resurrection there would be no opportunity for the woman to remarry since she would still be the last brother's wife along with saying that in the resurrection (when they rise) people are like the angels of God in heaven, not marrying each other, but being raised from the dead.

Again, I'm not trying to make a doctrine or anything, I'm just wondering if the common doctrine is in error in light of what I wrote, since this can be read another way. Basically, I'm just looking for information or discussion and not trying to put forth anything as the truth.
Marriage is about two becoming one flesh

but

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:7-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Marriage is about this world the kingdom is about the next where flesh doesn’t go

there are things according to this world and things according to the eternal kingdom of God.

a remember they were asking since she married several Men which one would be her husband in the afterlife ? His response is that in the resurrection there won’t be any such thing as marriage but for Christ to his church
 
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Isaiah 65:17-23 King James Version
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.

I think this might be a prophecy having to do with the millennial kingdom of Christ, but if it is literally talking about the new heaven and new earth then surely there will be families there.

Who will be your spouse on the other side of your resurrection from the grave?
Huh? I'm single now so no one as of right now, but reading these passages this way opens up the possibility of there being something in the future, which is nice!
 
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From Scripture that I read, there will not be marriage (as we know it here on earth) in heaven. God made man and woman (earthly) and instituted marriage for the express purpose of procreation. As for heaven, nowhere in Scripture do I find that man and woman will "procreate." There will be no child birthing in heaven.

Jesus was clear about marriage in heaven as stated in Matthew. IMO, our celestial bodies will not be made in such a way that man and woman can "become one flesh," have sex. Don't see that sexual relations are stated in Scripture. If anyone does, show me please.