Though this thread is not about salvation, or whether a person is osas or not, I'm sure it will morph into that.
Some may ask, how can you not be in the grace, love, or kingdom of God without talking about salvation?
Well, that's part of what I'm asking.
Is the child of God always and forever in the grace, love, and kingdom of God, or are the above mentioned conditional and temporal?
Again, this may look like I am asking if our salvation is conditional based on our works, but I am not. I'm separating salvation from the above mentioned.
If I were to ask, what is the grace of God? Some of you might say, it is the unmerited favor of God.
But is that all it is?
When God told Paul, "my grace is sufficient for thee, was He just saying, it is my will that you suffer and my grace will help you bear it?
After all, you may ask, isn't it the will of God for us to suffer for the name of Christ?
I personally do not agree with this doctrine.
Was God referring to Paul's salvation or situation, when He mentioned His grace being sufficient?
God's grace had nothing to do with Paul's salvation but everything to do with his thorn in the flesh.
So can there be more to God's grace than just His unmerited favor?
Are we in the grace of God if we complain about a situation we don't like, or take medication to alleviate any kind of sufferings?
Many of you, I am sure, would say, of course we are, but are we really?
Those of you who agree with this belief or doctrine, again, are tying God's grace to salvation, and I say, it is not.
Can the grace of God be more about where we are, rather than who we are in Christ?
I asked also, is the grace of God conditional?
I asked the same about the love of God. Is it conditional to be in the love of God?
And what about the kingdom of God? Is it conditional to get in and stay in or not?
Some may ask, how can you not be in the grace, love, or kingdom of God without talking about salvation?
Well, that's part of what I'm asking.
Is the child of God always and forever in the grace, love, and kingdom of God, or are the above mentioned conditional and temporal?
Again, this may look like I am asking if our salvation is conditional based on our works, but I am not. I'm separating salvation from the above mentioned.
If I were to ask, what is the grace of God? Some of you might say, it is the unmerited favor of God.
But is that all it is?
When God told Paul, "my grace is sufficient for thee, was He just saying, it is my will that you suffer and my grace will help you bear it?
After all, you may ask, isn't it the will of God for us to suffer for the name of Christ?
I personally do not agree with this doctrine.
Was God referring to Paul's salvation or situation, when He mentioned His grace being sufficient?
God's grace had nothing to do with Paul's salvation but everything to do with his thorn in the flesh.
So can there be more to God's grace than just His unmerited favor?
Are we in the grace of God if we complain about a situation we don't like, or take medication to alleviate any kind of sufferings?
Many of you, I am sure, would say, of course we are, but are we really?
Those of you who agree with this belief or doctrine, again, are tying God's grace to salvation, and I say, it is not.
Can the grace of God be more about where we are, rather than who we are in Christ?
I asked also, is the grace of God conditional?
I asked the same about the love of God. Is it conditional to be in the love of God?
And what about the kingdom of God? Is it conditional to get in and stay in or not?