Trumps Tariffs

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ResidentAlien

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#41
The next step is probably going to be be replacing public education with religious and Christian nationalist indoctrination.
 

HeIsHere

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#42
Hey Tourist, I haven’t been following much politics or news, other than here on the site and very seldomly. Do you mind sharing why you think Musk should be fired? I’m kinda interested into knowing why.

I don’t plan to try and change your opinion or anything; I just want to hear you out and see if it’s something I internally agree or disagree with, based on the limited information that I have.
1) The cuts are hurting every day people, veterans.
2) Muscrat is making serious errors
3) DOGE not a real Governmental body
4) How much money was Muscrat subsidized?
5) How much spending was just approved by Congress? And where is that money going, same ole, same ole.

Like extracting a bail of water from a sea of debt.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9iPdtdNAuE4

Town Hall turn heated.
 

ATSTD

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#43
1) The cuts are hurting every day people, veterans.
2) Muscrat is making serious errors
3) DOGE not a real Governmental body
4) How much money was Muscrat subsidized?
5) How much spending was just approved by Congress? And where is that money going, same ole, same ole.

Like extracting a bail of water from a sea of debt.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9iPdtdNAuE4

Town Hall turn heated.
#3 is the most concerning, followed by #5 which seems to happen in every presidency.

I’d like to hear other Christian takes on this matter. I’m sure there are pros and maybe more cons? I can think of a few pros but I’m definitely not going to name them in public. Are other Christian’s bold enough to add more pros or cons?
 

ZNP

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#44
#3 is the most concerning,
I agree, how is it that the US government with a budget in the trillions of dollars does not have a very strict protocol for auditing tax payer money? If you gave me $10,000 to go spend for a business you would expect a careful accounting of how that money was spent. If your business spends $7 million a year you would have a full time accountant handling the books. The US government spends 7 trillion dollars a year. That is a million times more than this small business. It is incredible that this process of looking for fraud and waste is not already in place and that DOGE was able to find so much fraud and waste.
 

ATSTD

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I agree, how is it that the US government with a budget in the trillions of dollars does not have a very strict protocol for auditing tax payer money? If you gave me $10,000 to go spend for a business you would expect a careful accounting of how that money was spent. If your business spends $7 million a year you would have a full time accountant handling the books. The US government spends 7 trillion dollars a year. That is a million times more than this small business. It is incredible that this process of looking for fraud and waste is not already in place and that DOGE was able to find so much fraud and waste.
I’m confused about what DOGE is. Isn’t that the name of the cryptocurrency that Elon dips in and out of, so the masses will buy in and he sells once it reaches a certain peak because he knows that a bunch of people out there idolize him?

I haven’t been following along for a while, as politics tend to cause me to fear and I’d rather have peace.
 

ZNP

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I’m confused about what DOGE is. Isn’t that the name of the cryptocurrency that Elon dips in and out of, so the masses will buy in and he sells once it reaches a certain peak because he knows that a bunch of people out there idolize him?

I haven’t been following along for a while, as politics tend to cause me to fear and I’d rather have peace.
Department of Government Efficiency -- They look for waste, fraud and abuse in the US budget to save taxpayers money.
 

DeanM

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#47
His tariff policies show his incredible ignorance. He's doubling down on the idea that it's a tax on other countries when in fact it's a tax on the US. Everyone seems to know this but him.
This and other posts you have made show yourself for what you are.
 

tourist

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#49
Hey Tourist, I haven’t been following much politics or news, other than here on the site and very seldomly. Do you mind sharing why you think Musk should be fired? I’m kinda interested into knowing why.

I don’t plan to try and change your opinion or anything; I just want to hear you out and see if it’s something I internally agree or disagree with, based on the limited information that I have.
I agree that there is tremendous waste in the government but Musk is using a chain saw to eliminate what he considers waste. It is best to use a scalpel. He really has no authority to fire anyone in government service yet Trump is on the sidelines doing nothing about it.

Thousands of workers have been fired yet thousands that were fired were, out of necessity, called back. Don't understand cutting the VA, Social Security staff / offices, and talks about cutting Medicare. I'm on Social Security as is my wife, and now, due to Musk's rash actions, are worried that our direct deposits are going to be late, or, due to allowing a 19 year old to mess with the coding, to disappear.

Trump needs to relieve Musk of his advisory position, and appoint a bi-partisan panel to recommend what is truly wasteful and implement a solution.

Start with defense spending - that is where most of the waste is. Defense department should purchase common items such as hammers, and toilet seats from existing US manufacturers. Currently, regardless of the item, each item has to be designed from scratch which leads to tremendous costs. Ridiculous.

I'm a Republican but Trump has been a big disappointment so far. Congress needs to start speaking up, demanding answers, and offering solutions to the problems facing the nation.
 

DeanM

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#50
Im on SSI also. There are kickbacks there as with every dept. in government. Payments to dead people, able bodied people recieving medicaid. Im all for cleaning it up. Its been going on far to long. The liberals cry about every move Trump makes. I have to wonder what they are afraid of. Its certainly isnt fear for the country as after the last four years we have been circling the drain.
 

ATSTD

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I agree that there is tremendous waste in the government but Musk is using a chain saw to eliminate what he considers waste. It is best to use a scalpel. He really has no authority to fire anyone in government service yet Trump is on the sidelines doing nothing about it.

Thousands of workers have been fired yet thousands that were fired were, out of necessity, called back. Don't understand cutting the VA, Social Security staff / offices, and talks about cutting Medicare. I'm on Social Security as is my wife, and now, due to Musk's rash actions, are worried that our direct deposits are going to be late, or, due to allowing a 19 year old to mess with the coding, to disappear.

Trump needs to relieve Musk of his advisory position, and appoint a bi-partisan panel to recommend what is truly wasteful and implement a solution.

Start with defense spending - that is where most of the waste is. Defense department should purchase common items such as hammers, and toilet seats from existing US manufacturers. Currently, regardless of the item, each item has to be designed from scratch which leads to tremendous costs. Ridiculous.

I'm a Republican but Trump has been a big disappointment so far. Congress needs to start speaking up, demanding answers, and offering solutions to the problems facing the nation.
I don't understand cutting VA social security staff/offices either. Some times people, especially elderly or even mentally ill adults of any age, need to go into a building to talk to someone because technology can be a bother. I am 37 years old and technology is already becoming a bother..

I don't see why cutting medicare or social security would solve anything, especially for those who worked for it and paid their taxes throughout their life, on social security tax and medicare tax. I can see setting that law for a younger age bracket and lower but not for everyone who literally spent their life for that end of life security.
 

vassal

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Are they going to strengthen our Economy, or weaken it?

Are they going to drive up the cost of pretty much everything?

IMO, they are going to end up hurting the average person. Especially low income people/families. There is no way the Manufacturers are going to "eat the rising cost" of producing their product(s). They are going to do what they always do, PASS IT ON!

Honestly, I do not understand Trumps thinking on this. Tariffs never help in the way those imposing them want. Buckle up and start cutting Coupons now..... sigh ...........
I wonder about trump competency ( see the link below) and I agree with you it will hurt the economy of the USA and planet wide;

Why Donald Trump's Companies Went Bankrupt
https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-business-bankruptcies-4152019
 

Intersection

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I’m confused about what DOGE is. Isn’t that the name of the cryptocurrency that Elon dips in and out of, so the masses will buy in and he sells once it reaches a certain peak because he knows that a bunch of people out there idolize him?

I haven’t been following along for a while, as politics tend to cause me to fear and I’d rather have peace.
 

HeIsHere

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#54
This and other posts you have made show yourself for what you are.
So being critical of the president means what exactly, what are they showing themselves to be?
 

DeanM

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liberal Christian is an oxymoron. anyone supporting the party of abortion, muslim terrorists and trans surgery for children have nothing useful for me. now, sigh some more.