Tasted Death for every Man !

Take away God’s grace, and have nothing but obedience. Will obedience alone save someone? No, because no one can obey perfectly. Take away obedience and have nothing but God’s grace. Will God’s grace alone save someone? No, because one must obey the gospel (2 Thess 1:8) and one must not live in sin to be saved (Rom. 6:1; Col. 3:5-7, etc etc). So, to be saved by grace you must obey (Heb. 5:9). God did His part by giving grace, and we must do our part to access by faith this His grace to be saved by grace (Rom. 5:2; Acts 2:38; Eph 2:8; Heb. 5:9).

Will God’s grace alone save someone? No,

“Take away obedience and have nothing but God’s grace. Will God’s grace alone save someone? No, because one must obey the gospel”

“What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;

whether of sin unto death, ( option one )

or of obedience unto righteousness? ( option 2)

But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin,

but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin,

ye became the servants of righteousness.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:15-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity;

even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Some are t able to acknolwedge that part yet that they have a choice of who to serve whether sin or obedience .The power we have is to yield ourselves either to Gods Will in Christ through the gospel truth

or to sin which is satans Will for us. Whichever we serve in life is who we belong to ultimately . In Christ we have a choice to yield ourselves to Gods Will revealed in the gospel or satans Will which is sin through our corrupted flesh

If we will submit to God and believe the gospel then he will lift us up where we can’t stand because we’re imperfect

I have ignored the OP, as well as any other Calvinists so I don’t have to deal with their heretical nonsense. It’s disturbing how obedience equals earning salvation to a lot of people, and even more disturbing how these same people usually believes if you have to obey or if it’s conditional then it’s not grace. But they don’t actually think through what that would actually involve, which usually can lead to some form of Calvinism. Or, universalism.

Meeting the conditions of the One who first offers the commands and bestows the grace is not earning anything. It’s simply desiring His will over your own. Although we are to obey, even when we try to obey, we will never obey perfectly like Jesus did, and that is why even our obedience in of itself alone will not and cannot get us to heaven. That is why anybody that goes to heaven is due to God‘s grace and mercy. While we are to obey, we are not to trust our obedience to save us. We are to trust Jesus to save us. If we trust our obedience to save us we are trusting ourselves, and we are going to get let down every single time, but when we trust Jesus, we will not get let down.

We are simply trusting in God to save us as we obey Him (Hebrews 5:9, Matthew 7:21). If the opposite is true, then we can be saved by God by going our own way by being ignorant of God’s righteousness, as we try to establish our own righteousness, but such runs contrary to the Bible (Prov. 12:15, Prov. 16:25, Jer. 10:23; Rom. 10:3)

Was Noah trusting in himself and the ark to save him and his family when he built an ark (Gen. 6; Heb. 11:7)? Was Naaman trusted in himself to save himself from his leprosy, as well as trusting in the water when he dipped in the Jordan river (2 Kings 5:10-14)? Was the blind man trusting in himself when he went to wash in the pool of Siloam (John 9:7-11)? Were the ones of Israel who looked to the bronze serpent on Moses’ pole trusting in themselves (Num. 21:9)? Was Israel trusting in themselves or their works as they marched around the walls of Jericho (Jos. 6:15-20)? In all the examples, as they trusted to submit to the commandments of God, would they have been trusting in their own works? Or would they have been trusting in God by taking Him at His word?

When we follow the holy, authoritative commands found in God's Word, we are not saving ourselves on our own merit. When we follow God's commands, He saves us. We should be thankful that He has graciously given us commands which save, instead of commands which condemn, as He is a God of salvation (Deut. 32:15; 2 Sam. 22:3; 2 Sam. 22:47; Ps. 25:5; Acts 28:28; Rom. 1:16; 1 Tim. 2:4, etc etc). We should be grateful that He has warned us about what we need to avoid in this life to avoid eternal condemnation (1 Cor. 6:9-10; Gal. 5:19-21; Rom. 6:1; Rom. 6:12; 1 John 3:10).

When we become a Christian and continue to follow Jesus, it isn’t showing how good we are, it’s showing how good He is (Jhn 10:11, 14, 27-28). Following Jesus doesn’t point back to our own righteousness, it points to His (Rom. 5:17, 21). Following Jesus isn’t looking to self for salvation, it’s looking to Him, the author and finisher of faith (Heb. 12:2). Following Jesus isn’t making ourselves the captain of our salvation, it’s Jesus who is the captain (Heb. 2:10). We obey God out of a love, faith, and out of having gratitude that we are saved in Christ. We have reverential love for Him (Gal. 5:6), and it’s by His grace which instructs (Titus 2:11-12). Living for God is trusting God. Living a godly lifestyle is not making it about our “works”. It's trusting in Christ’s work by making it about Him by being conformed to His image (Rom. 8:29). All of our good works we do and living faithfully is not making it all about ourselves but about God, as we are His workmanship (Eph. 2:10). Living a Christian life affirms our love to Christ (John 14:15, 15:14). It affirms our devotion to Him. His love compels us (2 Cor. 5:14) to do so and God’s grace is the instructor (Titus 2:11-12). By His grace, He has showed us how.

All of this is confirmation of having a saving faith in Christ, and is confirmation that we have and are surrendering our lives to Him by allowing Him to be the Lord and King over our lives. It is not our works that makes us righteousness (Titus 3:5). It is our faith in Christ that does by the power of the gospel (Rom. 3:22, Phil. 3:9, Rom. 1:16).

As said earlier, living a godly lifestyle is not making it about your “works”. It's trusting in Christ’s work by making it about Him by being conformed to His image (Rom. 8:29). The works of Christ that save us is His death, burial, resurrection, as well as what He has commanded us to do to be saved by Him. All of those are God ordained commandments/works which Jesus taught and which the Spirit revealed to the Apostles, to teach us how to be saved by His grace.

It’s not placing hope in ourselves, but rather, hope in God, as when we live faithfully that is how we let our light shine so that others may see Him in us (Matt. 5:16). That is why God gets all the glory (Psalm 29:2, Phil 2:13). His grace tells us that we can’t live in sin any longer (Rom. 6:1). It teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, and teaches us to live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world (Titus 2:12) and teaches us to grow in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior (2 Peter 3:18).

Just as in Moses day, the ones who looked to the pole of Moses that had a bronze serpent on it for physical healing when they got bit by a snake (Numbers 21:8-9..although the bronze serpent in and of itself did not heal them, God did), we must look to the cross of Jesus Christ that had the Lord of lords and King of kings for spiritual healing. Just as Naaman submitted to the Jordan River for physical healing (2 Kings 5:14), we must submit to water baptism for the remission of sins for spiritual healing by the blood of Christ (Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Matt. 26:28).

By looking to the God of heaven, the cross of Christ, searching the sword of the Spirit, we learn that God has given us conditions to be spiritually healed. We are to believe in God the Father and God the Son, Christ (John 3:16, 8:24, 5:24). We are to repent (Acts 17:30). We are to confess our faith in Jesus (Acts 8:37, Romans 10:9-10). We are to be baptized for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38). We are to follow Jesus (John 10:27). We are to do the Father’s will (Matt. 7:21). We are to walk in the Spirit (Gal. 5:25).

Grace is the reason we are capable of it

I have ignored the OP, as well as any other Calvinists so I don’t have to deal with their heretical nonsense. It’s disturbing how obedience equals earning salvation to a lot of people, and even more disturbing how these same people usually believes if you have to obey or if it’s conditional then it’s not grace. But they don’t actually think through what that would actually involve, which usually can lead to some form of Calvinism. Or, universalism.

I have ignored the OP, as well as any other Calvinists so I don’t have to deal with their heretical nonsense. It’s disturbing how obedience equals earning salvation to a lot of people, and even more disturbing how these same people usually believes if you have to obey or if it’s conditional then it’s not grace. But they don’t actually think through what that would actually involve, which usually can lead to some form of Calvinism. Or, universalism.

Then obedience is the result of "no longer I who lives but Christ who lives in me".

So the power to live the godly life cannot be credited to us but to God, yes? If not for grace and the Holy Spirit at work in our life, obedience would be impossible, yes?