A question about original sin

What if there had been no tempter/serpent and Eve had decided totally herself to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge then leading Adam to do the same?
Knowing our sinful human nature, that is perhaps not all that farfetched a scenario, surely?
God created human beings with free will. It seems to me we barely need the devil's encouragement a lot of the time to do what we know is wrong.

What if there had been no tempter/serpent and Eve had decided totally herself to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge then leading Adam to do the same?
Knowing our sinful human nature, that is perhaps not all that farfetched a scenario, surely?
God created human beings with free will. It seems to me we barely need the devil's encouragement a lot of the time to do what we know is wrong.

The mechanism of TEMPTATION for you, me, Eve, Adam Jesus, and everybody else is the same you're drawn away of YOUR OWN LUST (strong personal desire).

So far EVERYTHING comes from your own desires. The extra shove is satan's contribution in the form of "ENTICEMENT" - he knows exactly where your "buttons" are, and how/when to push 'em for greatest effect.

Jesus was TEMPTED in every respect AS WE ARE, and the only thing different about HIM was that Jesus didn't allow HIS LUST to "Conceive" and give birth to sinful acts.

"Sinful nature" is nothing but "Theology". What we all have (Including Adam, and Jesus) is a HUMAN NATURE, which operates according to James 1:12-15.

Eve wouldn't have eaten if Satan didn't beguile her. This is obvious by her response to his first lie where she says that God forbade them to eat from the tree or else they would die. Mankind was created originally good, so they weren't created with an inherent sinful nature. It's only after Satan lies to her that she started to think differently.

What if there had been no tempter/serpent and Eve had decided totally herself to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge then leading Adam to do the same?
Knowing our sinful human nature, that is perhaps not all that farfetched a scenario, surely?
God created human beings with free will. It seems to me we barely need the devil's encouragement a lot of the time to do what we know is wrong.

That's true.
I suppose I am trying to apply it to our lives. The question being, are we born good but become sinful and cynical only through the influence of others around us. Nature versus nurture argument.
Why did Eve decide to do the wrong thing, further, why did Adam follow her actions when he could have halted.

That's true.
I suppose I am trying to apply it to our lives. The question being, are we born good but become sinful and cynical only through the influence of others around us. Nature versus nurture argument.
Why did Eve decide to do the wrong thing, further, why did Adam follow her actions when he could have halted.

We are born good. Eve didn't really decide to do evil out of her own freewill, she had to be tricked into it. Adam likewise didn't choose out of his own freewill to turn against God. It's the concept of the loss of innocence as it is called. Really it is Satan that is the ultimate evil here that really knew what he was doing in the episode, the first sinner, the father of lies, first murderer.

Knowing our sinful human nature,

why did Adam follow her actions when he could have halted.

That's true.
I suppose I am trying to apply it to our lives. The question being, are we born good but become sinful and cynical only through the influence of others around us. Nature versus nurture argument.
Why did Eve decide to do the wrong thing, further, why did Adam follow her actions when he could have halted.

I do not see we are born good, why? Because only God is good according to Jesus Matthew 19 and other scriptures saying this too in Mark and Luke
Only one is good, my Father

Matthew 19:17
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

I need another way, I have not been perfect anyone else?

Read Galatians, might get the answer Chapter 3

That's true.
I suppose I am trying to apply it to our lives. The question being, are we born good but become sinful and cynical only through the influence of others around us. Nature versus nurture argument.
Why did Eve decide to do the wrong thing, further, why did Adam follow her actions when he could have halted.

When God created everything he pronounced it good, so the original state of everything is to be good. It's not until later when they commit sin and iniquity that they become evil, and for sure that will happen to everyone in the fallen world hence the neccessity of Jesus to redeem them. Couple this with Ezekiel 18 and how sin is not inherited. Though of course this will probably take us into a whole different topic which has already been pretty well plowed. Suffice to say to the OP, Satan has no excuses, be wary of any doctrine that tries to give him some excuses or let him off the hook, he is the Enemy, and he will bear the judgment God passed on him.[/QUOTE

Restored in belief of the risen Son for us, we are reckoned from God alone we are good Col 1;21-23 no one but God is actually good, Jesus said it, disciples reported it. I do not reckon me good. I reckon by God I am saved in belief Son is risen I am given new life of love and mercy to all. The same as Son gave on the cross to all. i call it the art of fighting without fighting
it is up to us to believe God and then see by not quitting belief to this love and mercy for us all. Not a few. And that does not mean all will be saved because he died once for all. Hebrews 10:10 left only one choice to believe as Adam the first did not and ate. Christ did not deny God< his Father, will we? I see you won’t and i know i won’t, as God knows who will, yet God will, does not interfere with free will given, at least that has been my experience

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A side effect of the forbidden fruit incident is something called the fallen
nature; which is commonly believed inherited from one's biological father.
Oh? Then whence did Eve get it? She was constructed with material taken
from Adam's body but that was all over and done with before he tasted the
forbidden fruit; so it was too late for him to transmit the fallen nature to Eve
via heredity.

FAQ: Did she get it from the fruit?

REPLY: Eve was the first to taste the forbidden fruit. When she did, nothing
happened. Eve went right on in the buff unashamed as usual. It wasn't till
Adam tasted the fruit that she got busy covering up her pelvic area with fig
leaves.

FAQ: If Eve's altered perception of decency wasn't due to the fruit, nor due
to heredity; then from where? Did God do it?

REPLY: Mr. Serpent-- a.k.a. the Devil (Rev 20:2) --is the logical source. He
has the power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human
body and the human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16,
Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:1-2.

FAQ: Why didn't the Serpent tamper with Eve when she tasted the fruit?
Why wait till Adam tasted it?

REPLY: It was apparently God's purpose that if sin and death were to come
into the world, they would come thru the actions of one man working solo
just as life and righteousness would later come into the world thru the
actions of one man working solo. (Rom 5:12-21)

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield his power the moment
that Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how quickly it
takes effect. Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife both
immediately set to work cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to
cover up their pelvic areas.

FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people . . . in the womb or out
of the womb?

REPLY: Adam and his wife demonstrate the Serpent's ability to work on
adults, but I'm guessing he gets to most everyone else in the womb. (Ps
51:5 & ps 58:3)
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A side effect of the forbidden fruit incident is something called the fallen
nature; which is commonly believed inherited from one's biological father.
Oh? Then whence did Eve get it? She was constructed with material taken
from Adam's body but that was all over and done with before he tasted the
forbidden fruit; so it was too late for him to transmit the fallen nature to Eve
via heredity.

FAQ: Did she get it from the fruit?

REPLY: Eve was the first to taste the forbidden fruit. When she did, nothing
happened. Eve went right on in the buff unashamed as usual. It wasn't till
Adam tasted the fruit that she got busy covering up her pelvic area with fig
leaves.

FAQ: If Eve's altered perception of decency wasn't due to the fruit, nor due
to heredity; then from where? Did God do it?

REPLY: Mr. Serpent-- a.k.a. the Devil (Rev 20:2) --is the logical source. He
has the power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human
body and the human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16,
Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:1-2.

FAQ: Why didn't the Serpent tamper with Eve when she tasted the fruit?
Why wait till Adam tasted it?

REPLY: It was apparently God's purpose that if sin and death were to come
into the world, they would come thru the actions of one man working solo
just as life and righteousness would later come into the world thru the
actions of one man working solo. (Rom 5:12-21)

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield his power the moment
that Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how quickly it
takes effect. Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife both
immediately set to work cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to
cover up their pelvic areas.

FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people . . . in the womb or out
of the womb?

REPLY: Adam and his wife demonstrate the Serpent's ability to work on
adults, but I'm guessing he gets to most everyone else in the womb. (Ps
51:5 & ps 58:3)
_

‘I suspect Adam doubted, being right there when she ate did not die or even get sick. Then ate and saw. Ran and hid as man has been doing that ever since. Yet all i get out of scripture are the “ cliff notes” the rest is conjectured with the maybe’s
no matter Adam the first failed, Adam the second did not fail by belief, trust to God Father in risen Son, we are now safe and see truth right from wrong and choose to harm no one on purpose at least me thanking God daily, even whenever i do wrong, i get to learn new and be grateful and see to remain glad God saves us in risen Son for us. As said in 2 Cor 12:7-10 i see to glory in my need not use it to get things, oh poor me
we are given everything we need for life and Godliness in God’s spirit and truth, the Holy Spirit.