The hatred of Jews

If I may, let me add that there are two victims in this plot initiated by the Powers That Be:

a) The people of the book who are still scattered whose identity was stolen
b) People deceived into believing they were someone they are not, who are otherwise decent, caring people.

The Powers That Be don't care about either group and will not hesitate to sacrifice anyone to achieve their goals. It's why we're still not seeing any effort to free the remaining hostages. They don't care about them. They're better served as martyrs.

We're seeing nations wake up and say "ok, 40+ thousand dead? now hundreds more civilians in other areas are killed? ...there's no justification for this much death and destruction." But the Powers That Be don't want a permanent ceasefire. They want the land.

If you're saying the Jews in Israel don't belong there or aren't real Jews(?) then would God be against them?

Yes, as much as He is against any evil person who's allowed to continue for now. Longsuffering, The Almighty allows sin to rise to full completion because of His mercy - giving people time to repent before passing judgment so that there isn't any argument when judgment is passed.


Genesis 15:16 (judgment against the Amorites)
And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete


Daniel 9:24 (Judgment against Judah)
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Jonah 1:1-2, 3:10 (Judgment against Nineveh)
The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai: 2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me...

3:10 When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened.


Genesis 18:20-21 (Judgment against Sodom & Gomorrah)Divine
Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”


He allows sin to rise to its peak before He passes final judgment.

I suppose one also has to wonder how much percentage of blindness this group receives?

Is it connected to the genes/biology, so then if a person is 0.03% related to Jacob then they receive 0.03% associated spiritual blindness.

And then we have an entire group of people spiritually blinded unable to, believe in/trust in, the Messiah because of biology and God has this in place for millennia?

Wow, so where did the free will argument go, another

I am just really wondering how we tie the DNA of Abraham to a specific group in this day and age.
What percentage qualifies... 0.02%, 0.03%, 0.05%

Amazing anyone thinks there is some pure blood line after how many years?

As I stated before, everyone I hang with and listen to are all for Israel, as is. The 1948 Declaration stating that she is a nation is a valid one, and she has been at war since the beginning to maintain the nationhood given back to her from God. The people there are leaders in tech and agriculture and are the 'apple of God's eye', as I know we are also grafted in too. To think the Jews there don't belong, esp by 'Christians' is mind-blowing to me, I'm just hearing this view. Btw, I'm not mad at anyone, lol, it's free speech here👍🙏 Also, to think in any way the Idf/Israel loves war and killing people is ludicrous. Look at all the people wiped out in the OT and by King David that came against God's people. Yes, some of them were unfaithful and were punished unless they repented.
Her neighbors don't accept Israel as a nation and a certain sect are determined to destroy the so-called 'not real Jews' there. If you have any doubts, there's a movie and series about the wars against Israel since 1948. The story of God's divine protection shown in this movie is to most, undeniable.
The fact is God IS for present day Israel or she would have already been wiped off the scene.

The 1948 Declaration stating that she is a nation is a valid one, and she has been at war since the beginning to maintain the nationhood given back to her from God.

The people there are leaders in tech and agriculture...

Her neighbors don't accept Israel as a nation and a certain sect are determined to destroy the so-called 'not real Jews' there.

The fact is God IS for present day Israel or she would have already been wiped off the scene.

No, everything that you just said as fact is nothing more than opinion. Right wrong or confused that's the bottom line.

BTW you ignored every point, haven't answered anything, and still haven't even really declared what you believe let alone made a scriptural case for any of it. Let me be clear I don't mean that you haven't outline the whole thing and scripturally defended all your positions. Of course I have not done that either, but you haven't even started or laid out anything. Just critiqued my view.
Build some of your own.

If your saying the Jews in Israel don't belong there or aren't real Jews(?) then would God be against them?

This represents the brains of those that hate Israel:

Untitled on Vimeo

It's wild right!? The thought that Christians potentially were born into a world of lies? "Why wouldn't they be Jews because, clearly, they say they are. They went through the Holocaust and then 1948 happened. And all of this happened before we were born, so why wouldn't it be true?"

Scripture is my truth, not what they say.

Exactly. They've been at war since established. Scripture says the opposite should be true. It specifically says they would live peacefully in "unwalled villages."

They indeed have great knowledge...of good things and evil things. Does The Almighty need technology to grow His creation?

There's a whole lot of history that happened before 1948 and even 1933 that you should research. The Arab nations did not have a problem with the Jewish people until Jewish people started killing Arabs and stealing their homes, this is when the fighting began.

But after Germany began cleansing their land of those who followed the Jewish religion, the Arabs were made to pay for what Germany did. This is history your movie likely doesn't cover.

It's wild right!? The thought that Christians potentially were born into a world of lies? "Why wouldn't they be Jews because, clearly, they say they are. They went through the Holocaust and then 1948 happened. And all of this happened before we were born, so why wouldn't it be true?"

Full disclosure, I believed they were because I had been told they were. Never questioned it my entire life until 2011 when I started really diving into the pages of the bible and noticed that multiple passages weren't fitting the narrative I was being fed...and then I had a decision to make.

I held my tongue (so to say) since then because scripture says "whatever is hidden will come to light". The Messiah also said that both the wheat and the tares would grow together (being indistinguishable) until the time of the harvest when it would be revealed what's what. I happen to believe we're at the cusp of the harvest so this truth is now surfacing.

Of course, you're free to continue to believe it but I have to stand by scripture. Scripture is my truth, not what they say.



Exactly. They've been at war since established. Scripture says the opposite should be true. It specifically says they would live peacefully in "unwalled villages." Yes, the current State has been warring since the beginning, building partition after partition to separate themselves from others around them.

Meanwhile, scripture speaks of a specific group that would never see peace once they acquired the land.



They indeed have great knowledge...of good things and evil things. Does The Almighty need technology to grow His creation?



There's a whole lot of history that happened before 1948 and even 1933 that you should research. The Arab nations did not have a problem with the Jewish people until Jewish people started killing Arabs and stealing their homes, this is when the fighting began.

In the past, up until the theft of their homes, the Arabs defended the Jews when Christian kingdoms persecuted them, and the Arabs were the first to give Jews the right to return to Jerusalem after being exiled by Rome. There was a significant (though small) population of Jews living in Palestine side-by-side with Arabs before 1933. But after Germany began cleansing their land of those who followed the Jewish religion, the Arabs were made to pay for what Germany did. This is history your movie likely doesn't cover.



This form of logic doesn't really ring true. All manner of evil is committed by people daily, does that mean The Almighty is for those evil acts otherwise they would've been ended already? Hopefully, you see my point.

I'm sticking with the Jews, others in Israel and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If you're not for the JEWS in current Israel, that's your lookout, I'm all in.

So did the Holocaust happen?

Great tell me how a covenant was made, OT.

Israel has given land for peace, they have offered peace plan after plan and the "Palestinian's" have rejected every single one. It is not Israel who wants war. smh

The Bible says Israel will bloom again. And she has. Look at pictures before 48 and now. If you don't see God's hand, you're the one spiritually blind.

This is an outright lie and flatly false. Arab nations aren't even at peace with each other. They were given a chance at a two state solution, they refused it. Why are you blaming Israel for that??

Absolutely and utterly false. Revisionist history to say the least.

A lot of innocent people were sacrificed in Germany to pave the way for the unchallenged holocaust of innocent Palestinians we're seeing today.

Since this is a longer post and it hits different topics I hope you don't care if we take it point by point so you can expand on an answer and I may have further questions after that. So I'm going to start with your comment above. Can you explain what you mean, or expand on it. It's rather hard because "Palestinian" is a rather loaded term in itself. But if I don't understand what you mean, I can't speak to it.

It did. There's evidence from Jewish historians to dispute the number but it did happen. The word holocaust means "burnt sacrifice" (or offering by fire). A lot of innocent people were sacrificed in Germany to pave the way for the unchallenged holocaust of innocent Palestinians we're seeing today.



Generally? Ok, two parties agree to terms and then blood is shed ratifying the agreement. Life is in the blood so the shedding of blood represents a life pact or an oath until death (e.g., "If I don't fulfill my part of the agreement may my blood be shed").

Examples of cut covenants include Genesis 15 when The Almighty told Abraham to split the animals in half as His spirit passed through them in the form of a flaming rod (representing all men) and a fiery oven (representing all women). Another example of a cut covenant is a traditional marriage covenant that includes the splitting of the wife and the shedding of blood. Another example includes the covenant at MT. Sinai with the blood sprinkled on all the Israelites in attendance as well as on the articles of the covenant.



It IS the current state that wants war. It is indeed. And you misunderstand me a bit. The scriptures say when they enter into the land THERE WILL BE PEACE. It doesn't say they'll strive for peace for a while. It doesn't say they'll eventually have peace. It doesn't say they'll reluctantly war but still want peace. It says they will live safely in unwalled villages. There will be Peace.

You have to realize that because the Son of the living God will be here in all His glory, people will be absolutely terrified. The resurrection of the dead will have occurred so people will be freaking out. And no one will want to stand against Him after He decimates the armies of the nations with a word. So when He leads His people (the fully assembled house, born in a day) into the land there won't be any confrontation or contention for what is His. The people will have absolutely nothing to fear from anyone.

Contrast that with:

- A people in the land constantly building walls and barriers
- A people without a Messiah
- A people constantly warring
- A people claiming they're constantly fearing their neighbors

They just don't fit, Rose.



It does say that. After The Messiah is there with the people. Until then, I see man's hand at work, and I don't make men into gods. I'll ask you the same question I asked the other person for thought. Do you really think The Almighty needs man's inventions to cause His land to bloom? Israeli technology pumps water into the area but shut off that technology (or destroy their power plant) and it will dry up again.

I explained this a while back with the example of Abraham, Sarah, and the promised seed. The Almighty doesn't need man's help to fulfill His word.



Making statements like "Arab nations aren't even at peace with each other" assumes they should be?? And why should they, because they're the same ethnicity? They're different nations. Have all White nations been at peace with each other throughout history? Have all Asian nations been at peace with each other? African nations? You just mentioned the holocaust which was between Jewish and German peoples who likely shared the same European ethnicity. So what are you even saying here?

Regardless, it's not a lie, you just haven't been exposed to the history (or you have but refuse to believe it). Here's a still of a very old documentary film showing a Jewish man on the left and an Arab man on the right walking downstairs. Apparently, they were acquainted with each other in this black-and-white film (which can be dated as early as 1880).

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In 638 CE, [Musim] Caliph Umar allowed Jews to reenter Jerusalem and settle around the Western Wall. He also gave Jewish families their own area in Jerusalem, which is now the Jewish Quarter of the Old City - History Today


Here's an excerpt from the article "Jerusalem: An Ancient City of Harmony":
History points to the fact that the Muslims were very welcoming of the Jews in Jerusalem and Palestine. In fact, a preserved Judeo-Arabic text writes apocryphally that Hazrat Umar (ra) reopened Jerusalem to the Jews: ‘So every Muslim who came was in town or valley, and there came with them a group of Jews. Then he (ʿUmar) ordered them to sweep the holy place (the Temple site) and to cleanse it… After this, the Jews sent word to all the rest of the Jews in Palestine to inform them of the agreement that ʿUmar had made with them… Then ʿUmar said, “Where would you wish to live in the city?” “In the southern part,” they replied. And that is now the Market of the Jews. The aim of their request was to be near the Temple Mount and its gates and likewise be near the water of Silwan for ritual bathing. The Commander of the Faithful granted this to them.’
- Source

And here's another article titled Before Zionism: The Shared Life of Jews and Palestinians
"Before the advent of Zionism and Arab nationalism, Jews and Palestinians lived in peace in the holy land. Menachem Klein’s new book maps out an oft-forgotten history of Israel/Palestine, and offers some guidance on how we may go back to that time."


In 638 CE, the Islamic Caliphate extended its dominion to Jerusalem.[14] With the Arab conquest of the region, Jews were allowed back into the city.[15] The majority population of Jerusalem during the time of Arab conquest was Christian.[16] In the aftermath the process of cultural Arabization and Islamization took place, combining immigration to Palestine with the adoption of Arabic language and conversion of a part of the local population to Islam.
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All one has to do is look. It's not hard to find. The Jewish education system lied to many people about the history of the two groups.


2 Thess 2:10
and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.

Questions for you: In the movie I posted above, do you recognize God's divine intervention in the many wars against Israel or are you blind?

If Israel declared peace and opened the borders, do you think she would be safe, in all honesty?

Is Satan at war against the bloodline of Jesus Rev 12;13?

Wow, so where did the free will argument go, another