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If the peanut gallery wants to know, this is what is happening in Canada.
Massive unprecedented Liberal corruption. Along with a brazen refusal to hand over evidence to the RCMP.
Literally EVERYBODY knows about it......yet no arrests. Oh and there are at least 13 MP's who are linked to the CCP.
And they never got the boot or criminally charged either. Not only that they did not even release their names to the public.

(1) Michael Cooper, MP on X: "NOT ONE CENT Trudeau's Green Slush Fund: -$330M approved by Board Members in conflicts of interest -$60M approved for ineligible projects -Chair found GUILTY of breaking ethics laws for funnelling $220K to her own company And to date, ZERO funds have been recovered. https://t.co/1czAXK5aXN" / X

(1) Andrew Scheer on X: "Liberal corruption has gotten so bad, the Speaker has ruled that all other business must be suspended until the scandal is investigated. Watch this video to get all the details. #TrudeauMustGo #Pierre4PM #cdnpoli https://t.co/IK6o7xriGA" / X
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Canadian are smart enough to (finally) admit that the Progressive Left is vastly corrupt and utterly contrary to everything that citizens demand of government. You know......freedoms and prosperity? Stuff like that. And they sick and tired of the endless gaslighting.

So they are kicking the feckless and useless Liberals to the curb.

And luckily, there is NO degree of election fraud allowed in Canada.
Tragically the damage is done. Canada is basically bankrupt.

The USSA? Election fraud is massive and is really the major and deciding factor nowadays.
And they are BK too.
 

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BTW @HeIsHere

Canadian are smart enough to (finally) admit that the Progressive Left is vastly corrupt and utterly contrary to everything that citizens demand of government. You know......freedoms and prosperity? Stuff like that. And they sick and tired of the endless gaslighting.

So they are kicking the feckless and useless Liberals to the curb.

And luckily, there is NO degree of election fraud allowed in Canada.
Tragically the damage is done. Canada is basically bankrupt.

The USSA? Election fraud is massive and is really the major and deciding factor nowadays.
And they are BK too.
Yes I see that too.

I doubt that Canadians would accept the measures Poilievre would really have to put in place to fix the damage done.
 

cv5

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Yes I see that too.

I doubt that Canadians would accept the measures Poilievre would really have to put in place to fix the damage done.
The job of the Bolsheviks was to damage nations beyond repair. Canada is on the brink. And yes, a welfare rug pull is going to freak out the peanut gallery.

The USA is just about finished and much worse off. Vastly corrupt, election fraud galore, assassinating/jailing candidates, communist sloganeering.

Too bad so sad. Happy about the rapture tho.
 

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Hopefully the Biden admin's spitting in the eye of America will help a bunch of people see.
Sadly, certain folks who suffer from a severe case of TDS will never see. :(
 

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Trump has only been loyal to himself throughout his entire life.
Inciting the Jan 6 insurrection (among other things) shows that his ego and objectives take precedence over the U.S. constitution.
J.D Vance is fully aware of Trump's unscrupulous and self-centered nature. But since Vance is akin to an ambitious frat boy in the Republican establishment, he will say whatever is necessary or stay silent to appease Trump and his cronies.
Still not as bad as Richard Stands, the guy we all had to pledge allegiance to. Why were we all made to pledge allegiance to the Republic for Richard Stands? What an egomaniac.
 

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Simple solution if you lost your home in Ashville. Go to El Paso, throw away your ID and come across the border wearing a Biden/Harris T shirt and you will get free housing.
Under the present admin, FEMA is now yet another weaponized agency that has been transformed into a slush fund that is being used as a vehicle for election fraud.

Does @posthuman and @ResidentAlien realize that American citizens are literally perishing because of this?
 

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Do you have a date or sign you are waiting for ... just curious

Are you pre-Trib?
Of course I am pre-trib. Because I am Biblically literate.
As for signs.....look out your window.

No dates. Dates are not specified for the rapture. Because it will be a sneak attack that Satan cannot front-run.

A fact lost upon many. Satan realizes his time is short......AFTER THE RAPTURE!
 

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Of course I am pre-trib. Because I am Biblically literate.
As for signs.....look out your window.

No dates. Dates are not specified for the rapture. Because it will be a sneak attack that Satan cannot front-run.

A fact lost upon many. Satan realizes his time is short......AFTER THE RAPTURE!
How do you define "pre trib"? All believers must go through tribulation, so obviously you are not referring to that. What defines the moment in time that the rapture is before?

There is no verse that says it is before the 70th week in Daniel, or that it is before the covenant with the many.

There is a typology of David reigning in Hebron for 7 1/2 years that indicates it could be more than seven years before Jesus comes to Jerusalem, and Leah getting married 7 days before Rachel can also imply that. But you don't make a doctrine out of types and shadows.

Revelation 3:10 says they will be kept out of the "hour of trial" not week or seven years.
 

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How do you define "pre trib"? All believers must go through tribulation, so obviously you are not referring to that. What defines the moment in time that the rapture is before?

There is no verse that says it is before the 70th week in Daniel, or that it is before the covenant with the many.

There is a typology of David reigning in Hebron for 7 1/2 years that indicates it could be more than seven years before Jesus comes to Jerusalem, and Leah getting married 7 days before Rachel can also imply that. But you don't make a doctrine out of types and shadows.

Revelation 3:10 says they will be kept out of the "hour of trial" not week or seven years.
I know EXACTLY what I am talking about regarding the pre-trib rapture.
And the correct Biblical specification is.......a pre-trib rapture.

I never need advice on the reality of matter. Like.....ever.
 

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I know EXACTLY what I am talking about regarding the pre-trib rapture.
And the correct Biblical specification is.......a pre-trib rapture.

I never need advice on the reality of matter. Like.....ever.
I wasn't asking for advice, I was asking for a verse reference. A couple of simple questions about what you mean by "pre-trib".
 

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Do you have a date or sign you are waiting for ... just curious

Are you pre-Trib?
Yes, there are a few very critical verses on this.

1. John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

We can't know what is the "pre-trib" rapture unless we know what the church age is and what marks the end of the church age. Think of the end of the church age as the end of the school year and shortly after that you have graduation which is the rapture. During the church age we witness of the Lord and present the gospel for people to freely choose. It is their choice. But, at the end of the age the world will choose the Antichrist to be the head of the one world government. This is why the UN approving the Pact for the Future on October 2nd was so momentous. It was described by some as the biggest covenant the UN has ever approved in their entire existence. It goes a long way to setting up the UN as a one world government. Now if you believe in coincidences (I don't) you will think that the solar eclipse on October 2nd was a coincidence and not a sign of God's judgment on the nations. You would also consider the timing taking place at the Feast of Trumpets to also be a coincidence.

2. Luke 12:35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.

If you read the context of these verses it is very clear that the Lord is talking about His return to the church and not to Israel. This is not His wedding. A wedding is a covenant, and when the world chooses the Antichrist to be the world leader that is a covenant and in this parable it is the "wedding". This wedding marks the end of the church age and it also marks the point at which Evangelical Christians are officially guilty of being in rebellion to the world government. If you have been paying attention to the move towards one world religion the Catholic church, Islamic religion and Jews have all united under one banner of believing in one God. They claim that Evangelical Christians are blaspheming by saying that Jesus is God. Christians are ambassadors for the Kingdom of the heavens, it is at this point that the Antichrist kingdom declares war on the Kingdom of the heavens and the rapture, or "harpazo" is when the Lord pulls His ambassadors out.

37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

The Lord's wedding is at the Father's house, so this cannot refer to His wedding. Also the servants here are also the bride, so that also does not line up with His wedding and finally, no bridegroom is going to leave the bride at midnight to make dinner for his servants. Instead, think of when Adonijah tried to make himself king and the true servants of David were over in David's palace asking about Solomon.

38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

This is a reference to the apostasy. After the rapture they will be burned to the ground. Antichrist will be against them and even the people will feel betrayed by their teachings.

40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

That is a big clue, instead of thinking of likely days for the Lord to return, think of what the least likely days are.
 

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Yes, there are a few very critical verses on this.

1. John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

We can't know what is the "pre-trib" rapture unless we know what the church age is and what marks the end of the church age. Think of the end of the church age as the end of the school year and shortly after that you have graduation which is the rapture. During the church age we witness of the Lord and present the gospel for people to freely choose. It is their choice. But, at the end of the age the world will choose the Antichrist to be the head of the one world government. This is why the UN approving the Pact for the Future on October 2nd was so momentous. It was described by some as the biggest covenant the UN has ever approved in their entire existence. It goes a long way to setting up the UN as a one world government. Now if you believe in coincidences (I don't) you will think that the solar eclipse on October 2nd was a coincidence and not a sign of God's judgment on the nations. You would also consider the timing taking place at the Feast of Trumpets to also be a coincidence.

2. Luke 12:35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.

If you read the context of these verses it is very clear that the Lord is talking about His return to the church and not to Israel. This is not His wedding. A wedding is a covenant, and when the world chooses the Antichrist to be the world leader that is a covenant and in this parable it is the "wedding". This wedding marks the end of the church age and it also marks the point at which Evangelical Christians are officially guilty of being in rebellion to the world government. If you have been paying attention to the move towards one world religion the Catholic church, Islamic religion and Jews have all united under one banner of believing in one God. They claim that Evangelical Christians are blaspheming by saying that Jesus is God. Christians are ambassadors for the Kingdom of the heavens, it is at this point that the Antichrist kingdom declares war on the Kingdom of the heavens and the rapture, or "harpazo" is when the Lord pulls His ambassadors out.

37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

The Lord's wedding is at the Father's house, so this cannot refer to His wedding. Also the servants here are also the bride, so that also does not line up with His wedding and finally, no bridegroom is going to leave the bride at midnight to make dinner for his servants. Instead, think of when Adonijah tried to make himself king and the true servants of David were over in David's palace asking about Solomon.

38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

This is a reference to the apostasy. After the rapture they will be burned to the ground. Antichrist will be against them and even the people will feel betrayed by their teachings.

40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

That is a big clue, instead of thinking of likely days for the Lord to return, think of what the least likely days are.
Every one of those verses pertain to post rapture Israelites.