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cv5

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I concur about Musk. It is striking how the left used to love Twitter, but now that all the bots are gone and varied viewpoints are allowed, it's all misinformation.
Somebody tell @posthuman to whip out his scientific calculator and do the math.

Because if 10% of the $$$ vast war funding $$$ wasted on the MIC in Ukraine and Israel were to be used for the sake of hurricane victims, there is no doubt that EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM could have been gifted with a brand new house as a result. With plenty of money left over for a free college education for the kids.

But as we know, Americans are the perpetual dutiful victims, doormats and punching bags when it comes to MIC war profiteering and government sponsored and taxpayer funded election fraud via migrants.
 

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I concur about Musk. It is striking how the left used to love Twitter, but now that all the bots are gone and varied viewpoints are allowed, it's all misinformation.
Musk literally saved free speech in America. He alone. One dude. Its outrageous.

And now, this platform, one of the last few remaining, is vilified by the 1st amendment hating nutters.
And what's worse, they want to empower government to do the free speech exterminating.

Freedoms and rights are scary to these people. They feel the need to be ruled, and told what to do, what to read, and what to think.

America has lost its mojo.
 

cv5

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I think space lasers was a claim from Hawaii.

What you are seeing is desperate people who may or may not know the Lord.
As if rumors of space lasers is sufficient reason to TOTALLY ELIMINATE FREE SPEECH.
Because that is essentially what @posthuman is demanding.

Take a look at old newspapers. They were filled with BS, hoaxes and rumors.
 

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He literally believes absolutely nothing posted on X. And he also thinks that everyone on X is a fake account spreading MAGA fake news. When in fact X is probably the only platform left without massive Biden regime censorship.
This is completely inaccurate.

I said that I don't trust random opinion comments from strangers in social media above respected sources.

I said that just because an account on social media claims to be a lawyer doesn't mean he really is one.

And I said that not having electricity 36 hours after an enormous hurricane blows through a city that almost never gets that kind of weather is not at all comparable to having Russia drop targeted bombs on you and your infrastructure for over a year.



If you slander your own brother so recklessly with such complete disregard for facts and such utterly dishonest skewing of the truth, why should I believe anything you post about the worldly things you are obsessed with in this thread?

What you posted bro, that's what worldly politics does to Christians. It makes you not at all act like one.
 

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This is completely inaccurate.

I said that I don't trust random opinion comments from strangers in social media above respected sources.

I said that just because an account on social media claims to be a lawyer doesn't mean he really is one.

And I said that not having electricity 36 hours after an enormous hurricane blows through a city that almost never gets that kind of weather is not at all comparable to having Russia drop targeted bombs on you and your infrastructure for over a year.
Enjoy your $750 if you can get it. While Kamala laughs her fool head off.
Somebody around here just doesn't get it and it ain't me. And yes my math makes perfect sense does it not? Oh yes, the United States is literally paying for the pensions of Ukraine and has been for quite some time. While you get jack squat.

And another thing: no intelligent wise person fails to understand the real reason for the Ukraine war. I have a perfect understanding of the timeline, events leading up to it, and know the $$$ real story $$$ based on historical facts and evidence. All of this has been revealed by the finest investigative journalists and experts in the field. It is indisputable truth.

"War is a Racket" Smedley Butler. Read it sometime.
That would be the reality-based casus belli. Not the usual preposterous war propaganda and lies that everyone so desperately wants to believe and cling to. And yes, I despise the journalist-murdering mafia kingpin Putin so don't lay that trip on me.

And then there is this. Assange's reveal. I have posted it MANY MANY times, yet nobody seems to care to acknowledge it.
And YES, Assange knows better than probably any journalist in the world. And he is right of course. And yes, the establishment tried to grease/jail the poor guy just like they want to grease/jail Trump.

(1) WikiLeaks on X: "Julian Assange speaking in 2011: "The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war" #FreeAssange https://t.co/ca5c0wMyC7" / X

Julian Assange speaking in 2011: "The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war"

THAT is the black hole where all the money disappeared to buddy. War, the BIGGEST and by far the most lucrative RACKET of them all. Your money. All gone. And the monkeys get $750 worth of peanuts and they think that they got lucky to have it.

And yes, I have ALREADY posted the admission FROM ZELENSKY HIMSELF complaining that Ukraine is only getting about 30% of the funding sent. The rest disappears one way or another. But you failed to see that as well.

Go ahead @Magenta wave the flag and deny what Assange is saying. Deny all of it. No skin off my nose.
 
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Musk literally saved free speech in America. He alone. One dude. Its outrageous.

And now, this platform, one of the last few remaining, is vilified by the 1st amendment hating nutters.
And what's worse, they want to empower government to do the free speech exterminating.

Freedoms and rights are scary to these people. They feel the need to be ruled, and told what to do, what to read, and what to think.

America has lost its mojo.
How did Musk save free speech? I think it's safe to say all these people are batting for the same team, and its not for us.
 

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Enjoy your $750 if you can get it. While Kamala laughs her fool head off.
Do not despise the day of small things. Yes they are spitting in your eye, but that is so you can stop being blind and see what is going on. Use the $75 to buy a tent, some sleeping bags and other gear. Things are about to get real bad.
 

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How did Musk save free speech? I think it's safe to say all these people are batting for the same team, and its not for us.
Here is some free speech for you buddy. Sachs lays out the unsavory facts for the world to hear. But who wants to hear it?
This is for @posthuman and @Magenta and @Susanna too. They desperately need to be edumacated.

(1) James Melville 🚜 on X: "Jeffrey Sachs (American economist, public policy analyst, professor at Columbia University) gives Piers Morgan an absolute schooling on geopolitics (and the US government’s nefarious role within this). https://t.co/OUxIqg07Ga" / X

Yes, there is the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and 2003 treaty in the mix as well, but they are all intertwined.

Oh and never forget: Ghadaffy was betrayed and murdered, his country bombed into oblivion, because he was going to swap out the USD for an African gold dinar. And of course the US military pillaged all of Libya's gold, stole every bar.....all gone.

Same goes for Ukraine's gold hoard......it all disappeared.

Iraqi gold......ALL pillaged by US forces and flown out during in the fog of war.

And yes, Madelaine Albright had to make some tough choices during the Iraqi war. Tough choices.
But I am sure that her kids are doing just fine.
(1) WikiLeaks on X: "“We have heard that half a million children have died.. that's more children than died in Hiroshima...is the price worth it? "We think the price was worth it" [Madeleine Albright 1937 - 2022] #Iraq https://t.co/vqaJ5CbJ4u" / X

Putin however, he is a big time mob boss and not a pushover, nukes and all. He has stated on the record that he intends on "eliminating the Rothchilds bankers" and jettisoning the USD (and Swift) for a BRICs currency.
And THAT dear friends, is ultimately why there are now 700,000 dead Ukrainians and 200,000 dead Russians.

And since I am against all wars there is NONE OF THIS BLOOD ON MY HANDS.
All of this blood is on the hands of the MIC warhawks their brainwashed cheering section.
 

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Do not despise the day of small things. Yes they are spitting in your eye, but that is so you can stop being blind and see what is going on. Use the $75 to buy a tent, some sleeping bags and other gear. Things are about to get real bad.
Assange became MIC public enemy #1 when he ratted on the war mafia mob bosses.
Then they put a hit out on him (while Pompeo "the Bible thumper" was head of the CIA) and also tried to put him away in a gulag forever. This fortunately failed, as he is still alive and the DOJ dropped the case because they KNEW that charges were bogus and would be tossed out of court.

Assange was tortured and had his life ruined though. So they must be pleased with that outcome.

And tell me: does this scenario ring a bell as of late? Ooohhhhh yes. Trump. They want him dead and jailed too.
Because of course he is committing the OUTRAGE of derailing the "endless war" gravy train. And of course his "threat" of defusing the MIC push to weaponize government and destroy free speech. And put an end to the VAST migrant human and child trafficking and election fraud.

300,000 missing children, and nobody bats an eyelash huh? There is going to be hell to pay for all of this.

Anyhoo, I can read the writing on the wall, just like Daniel could. Can you?
 

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Assange became MIC public enemy #1 when he ratted on the war mafia mob bosses.
Then they put a hit out on him (while Pompeo "the Bible thumper" was head of the CIA) and also tried to put him away in a gulag forever. This fortunately failed, as he is still alive and the DOJ dropped the case because they KNEW that charges were bogus and would be tossed out of court.

Assange was tortured and had his life ruined though. So they must be pleased with that outcome.

And tell me: does this scenario ring a bell as of late? Ooohhhhh yes. Trump. They want him dead and jailed too.
Because of course he is committing the OUTRAGE of derailing the "endless war" gravy train. And of course his "threat" of defusing the MIC push to weaponize government and destroy free speech. And put an end to the VAST migrant human and child trafficking and election fraud.

300,000 missing children, and nobody bats an eyelash huh? There is going to be hell to pay for all of this.

Anyhoo, I can read the writing on the wall, just like Daniel could. Can you?
It is a relay race, Assange handed the baton to you.

Yes, I can read the writing on the wall which is why I say there is salvation in no other name than Jesus Christ.
 

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Of course I am pre-trib. Because I am Biblically literate.
As for signs.....look out your window.

No dates. Dates are not specified for the rapture. Because it will be a sneak attack that Satan cannot front-run.

A fact lost upon many. Satan realizes his time is short......AFTER THE RAPTURE!
Okay, but just so you know many believers are Biblically literate.
I find the ones who are most Biblically literate are the ones who trust Jesus when He stated "shortly'"
...of course that is my view and you are entitled to yours, and no disrespect but I do feel with your boldness the correct view needs all the help it can get in these troubling times.

It is what it is and time will tell.
 

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Nope. No baton. See and flee. Thats what we are doing. Bugging out buddy.
Not me. Phil 1:28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.

No way to go but up.
 

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Yes, there are a few very critical verses on this.

1. John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

We can't know what is the "pre-trib" rapture unless we know what the church age is and what marks the end of the church age. Think of the end of the church age as the end of the school year and shortly after that you have graduation which is the rapture. During the church age we witness of the Lord and present the gospel for people to freely choose. It is their choice. But, at the end of the age the world will choose the Antichrist to be the head of the one world government. This is why the UN approving the Pact for the Future on October 2nd was so momentous. It was described by some as the biggest covenant the UN has ever approved in their entire existence. It goes a long way to setting up the UN as a one world government. Now if you believe in coincidences (I don't) you will think that the solar eclipse on October 2nd was a coincidence and not a sign of God's judgment on the nations. You would also consider the timing taking place at the Feast of Trumpets to also be a coincidence.

2. Luke 12:35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.

If you read the context of these verses it is very clear that the Lord is talking about His return to the church and not to Israel. This is not His wedding. A wedding is a covenant, and when the world chooses the Antichrist to be the world leader that is a covenant and in this parable it is the "wedding". This wedding marks the end of the church age and it also marks the point at which Evangelical Christians are officially guilty of being in rebellion to the world government. If you have been paying attention to the move towards one world religion the Catholic church, Islamic religion and Jews have all united under one banner of believing in one God. They claim that Evangelical Christians are blaspheming by saying that Jesus is God. Christians are ambassadors for the Kingdom of the heavens, it is at this point that the Antichrist kingdom declares war on the Kingdom of the heavens and the rapture, or "harpazo" is when the Lord pulls His ambassadors out.

37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

The Lord's wedding is at the Father's house, so this cannot refer to His wedding. Also the servants here are also the bride, so that also does not line up with His wedding and finally, no bridegroom is going to leave the bride at midnight to make dinner for his servants. Instead, think of when Adonijah tried to make himself king and the true servants of David were over in David's palace asking about Solomon.

38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

This is a reference to the apostasy. After the rapture they will be burned to the ground. Antichrist will be against them and even the people will feel betrayed by their teachings.

40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

That is a big clue, instead of thinking of likely days for the Lord to return, think of what the least likely days are.
I know you are very knowledgeable on futurist eschatology.
But I do believe it is applied to the wrong time period.
 

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I know you are very knowledgeable on futurist eschatology.
But I do believe it is applied to the wrong time period.
Upon deliberate, careful consideration and inspection, the historicist view (and all others) are proven to be so patently absurd that they do not warrant anything less than being tossed into the dumpster.
 

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Upon deliberate, careful consideration and inspection, the historicist view (and all others) are proven to be so patently absurd that they do not warrant anything less than being tossed into the dumpster.
Then you have tossed out the words of Jesus, I think He was quite clear.
But that is just me I guess.