Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

Agreed.
I don't try to look like a clown but if a new fashion is required to beat the current fashion, i will take it.
It's better than being confused about basic concepts of reality.

When it comes to abortion ... suddenly the left knows exactly what a woman is.
It's incredible how clear they get.

Interesting, well since both parties are funded by the same techno-oligarchy, warmongering military industrial complex, it is just another distraction to make the left spin and right spin in their respective camps.



Perfect Hegelian dialectic for this voting season, we have a choice, wait for it >>>>The Communists versus The Christian Theocracts.

Seems like people are being played to me and they are blind to the real enemies.

Trump, who's almost 80, seems to have lost it.



Not even sure what this was supposed to be.



And his rallies are mostly just snooze fests, where he rambles on and on til the point where people up and leave.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/26/trumps-campaign-rallies-harmful-or-helpful

Agreed, and women will thank you for it!

Isn't it though! Walking around with their privates on their heads. smh Yep, that's weird!!

Bull and !! My sister and her family went to a rally. My nephew is still talking about it. They said the total opposite.

Do you know what a strawman is? If so, how does this relate to my refusal to answer if I have kids? Furthermore, you haven't even articulated how having kids is any variable worth considering when determining if it's "weird" to talk about how "sexy" your daughter is and joke about dating her if he wasn't the father?

Yeah, you're failing to get the reasoning for why it's weird in context. He has previously said his daughter was "sexy", agreed she is "a [nice] piece of @$$", and joked that he would date her if she wasn't his daughter. Knowing this, and then seeing a picture where he is holding a teenaged Ivanka would give most people "the ick". You're clearly deflecting from saying if this is "weird" or not. You're framing it as if Trump never said these FILTHY and WEIRD statements about the same daughter in the picture. Of course, when we apply what he has said, it makes this picture look even more weird.

Look at your defense of Trump in this statement alone though. You're saying it's "stupid and inappropriate to even go on Stern" but not calling out the explicit statements he said ON Stern as "inappropriate" or even "weird". The weird and inappropriate part isn't necessarily going on Stern, but in engaging in a conversation about how "sexy" his daughter is. You refuse to call the statements out as being "weird" and I'm beginning to think you actually DON'T think it's weird... just "stupid".

Do you know what "in conjunction" means? The picture, in conjunction to the many sexual comments he made of his daughter make this picture weird. You're pretending to not understand. I don't believe for a minute you don't understand this point.

I can't speak for anyone else, for me, I've stated if it was just a picture without any context or history of him making sexual comments about Ivanka, I wouldn't think this was overly weird. A better defense is just acknowledging he used to be degenerate and make filthy comments but has since converted and rebuked his past lifestyle. While converting does not remove the fact he did what he did and said what he said, it does show a growth and maturity towards Christ in that he has forsaken making comments like this. That's essentially the only defense I can think of and it's true. We are all in need of a Savior.

Our new leftist cheerleader in the forum thinks that this game is about optics.
He's clearly on dialup because optics was something that was abandoned in Season 10 and we're about to enter Season 13 right now.

The pic from the rally shows that people aren't sticking around for his rambling, boring speeches. And some of the people in those rallies obviously took away different vibes than your family. Apparently it was bad enough that it made them decide to not vote for Trump this year.

That seems to be the preferred way Trump supporting Christians deal with his hedonism and sexual immorality. Just pretend none of it ever happened.

Awww yeah I can see that. Not everyone can keep up. Season 13 is gonna be a nail biter though.

So you're saying he has/had a sexual relationship with his daughter?! He raped his own daughter. That's what you're saying.

You know what would be a good idea for all you leftists visiting this forum to lower the political temperature?
Instead of trying to follow your delusions that you will be changing minds of the conservatives, maybe start with an apology.
Start by saying "we are sorry, we went a bit off track in the last 10 years. A man in a dress is not a woman".
Then shake hands and start to build legislature based on reading actual bills not just be voting on team sports like they do on CSPAN.
Or passing the Patriot Act, a 350 page document in 24 hours without reading the document.
I bet you if you did that, you will change more minds that you can ever imagine.
And that would mean letting go some of your pride in your team.

FYI, opposing Trump and refusing to support him does not make one a "leftist". If it did, then Mike Pence would be a leftist, which is obviously silly.

Probably the best thing would be for the Trump supporters to stop engaging in personal attacks.

Or how about adhering to the American ideals of freedom and liberty, which means people are free to live as they see fit?

I would love to see more bipartisanship! That's why I want to see the Republican Party return to sanity, and ditch Trump who puts the good of his campaign over the good of the country, such as when he ordered Republicans to kill the immigration reform bill they developed.

You clearly are too heavily invested in your leftist ideology to even try to communicate with someone with an opposing view.
You also lied to me and maybe yourself when you told me that you're an "independent".
You think i'm joking but ultimately you will have as much insane ideas from the conservatives if you try to push your "man in a dress" support.
People don't take the mocking of their senses lightly despite having their stomachs full.

Do you really think the other side is sane?

So your idea of lowering the temperature is to call people names and level false accusations against them.

You should probably pray on that.

What i'm saying is that you're on a different frequency trying to communicate to people and you can't even trace your steps back on how you even got to this point in history.
But such is the wave of history.

IMO, it's a matter of scale. While the Dems have moved slightly more left, the Republicans have moved much, much farther to the extreme right.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...days-congress-has-roots-that-go-back-decades/

Thanks for your opinion.