Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

I don't think you do. A "black job" or "getting paid under the table" means a dirty job or a low level job. So by saying that to black people, some interpreted it as "these are the jobs that blacks are supposed to do".
Did you say you were an English teacher?

No I was not an english teacher. Please give me the reference from a reputable dictionary and not some absurd online slang dictionary. Thanks

Really? So jobs now identify as being Black? If a transgender does a job, is that job now a "transgender job" using your logic? In your other post you said "Personally I agree with Morgan Freeman, stop talking about race and that starts with associations like BLM and NABJ." But you're actually outwoking the woke people because now jobs identify as "Black" which can then be extrapolated as a job potentially being a "transgender job". That's madness!

Okay so now i see that you're a bit off the main path because unless you live in a region where they speak English with a different dialect complete isolated from the rest of the country then yeah you might have not heard the term "black jobs" or "getting paid under the table".

Okay have fun in America season 12.

Yeah that's how i understood it too but his choice of words is always entertaining and some didn't understand it as that.

I am not an interpreter for Trump anymore than I was willing to be an interpreter for Biden or Harris when they say things that are unintelligible.

What I will say is how I understood what he was saying. There are 45 million illegals in this country (that is a conservative estimate and only half of them came over during Biden's administration, so he is not to blame for all of them). I think we can all assume that for the majority of them they have to find work to support themselves. Yes there are probably a very small minority that are involved with cartels and some kind of illegal occupation, but let's focus on all the hard working ones trying to support themselves. Since they are illegal they probably work for cash, don't pay taxes and yet still get a variety of benefits including living in shelters and eating at soup kitchens. We can assume they are not taking white collar jobs nor are they living in wealthy suburbs. So they are using resources in poorer neighborhoods. I was a teacher and having a number of poor kids who didn't speak english definitely has an impact on the quality of education every student in that school gets. Now we had 400 students and only 2 were white. Growing up I went to school in a wealthy suburb and just about every student was white. So if we can be honest the impact of the illegal immigrants impacts poorer inner city neighborhoods quite differently than it does wealthy suburbs. In the wealthy suburbs they will hire day laborers and nannys and other workers on a per day cash basis, so the illegal immigrants makes life less expensive in the wealthy suburbs while taking away resources and services in the poorer inner city neighborhoods.

So to answer the question "what is a black job" it is a reference to the fact that 45 million people are trying to do jobs that do not require a college education and they are taking those jobs away from American citizens. Why would Trump refer to those jobs as "black jobs" when no doubt you can find people of every race and ethnicity doing manual labor. I thought he said that because he was speaking to "black journalists" and assumed that "black journalists" were concerned about "black jobs". Perhaps "black journalists" are also concerned about white jobs and latino jobs and asian jobs, but if so then it is strange to me they would call themselves an association of black journalists.

It reminds me of the dust up over "Black lives matter" because of its racists insinuations. The name implies that to cops Black lives are less important than other races (when in fact statistically it was shown cops are significantly less likely to shoot a black person that is presenting the same perceived threat as other races). Then they got offended with people who said "All lives matter" which to me was further proof that this name did insinuate racists attitudes and they got offended at those who said "Blue lives matter" even though it was clear a cop was far more likely to be shot and killed on the job than an innocent black person was.

Personally I agree with Morgan Freeman, stop talking about race and that starts with associations like BLM and NABJ.

Got it, so you have no link, no reference to back up your insulting rhetoric.

"these are the jobs that blacks are supposed to do".

Okay have fun in America season 12.

The definition he gave was any job that a black person does, not "any job that only black people do". So there is no contradiction. Just because we had a black man as president does not mean that henceforth only black men should be president.

What IS a "Black job" though?

You can’t just claim thier is 45 million illegals in the US without backing that claim up with data.

I provided data to the contrary now you have to correct your numbers or provide proof for your claim as well as discredit the pew research centers findings.

He didn't say that though. Go back to the original post, I quoted verbatim. "A Black job is anybody that has a job." I don't mean to be bombastic, but words matter. "Anybody" is all inclusive, meaning it's not explicitly referring to "Black people". Also, the position of POTUS is a job. By Trump's own definition, Biden is currently holding a "Black job".

He didn't say that though. Go back to the original post, I quoted verbatim. "A Black job is anybody that has a job." I don't mean to be bombastic, but words matter. "Anybody" is all inclusive, meaning it's not explicitly referring to "Black people". Also, the position of POTUS is a job. By Trump's own definition, Biden is currently holding a "Black job".

This is pretty funny!!

I think @Eli1 is right, so entertaining, wow!

Can someone who thinks this makes sense and thinks it's not using the race card for a political advantage expand on this? Does that mean every working American has a "Black job" by his definition?




I am for LEGAL immigration only. Having said that, I have been told how homicidal these illegal immigrants are for years. When someone gave me a study showing illegal immigrants are 44.8% LESS likely to commit homicide than a native-born American, I had my doubts and wanted to fact-check it. Upon looking at the data by the Cato Institute, I was quite surprised that my original perception doesn't match actual data. This doesn't mean I'm for open boarders, but I'm realizing I was force-fed race-baiting arguments, which aren't even accurate.

I don't want this to be a "but what about Kamala and/or the left..." derailment. So, I ask that you stay engaged on this OP and feel free to make a new thread addressing the "so-and-so" on the left you want to blast. In other words, I don't want this thread obfuscated please. Most of us here aren't in alignment with them. Discuss if you think Trump is or isn't using the race card, if you're surprised and/or agree by the data which illustrates illegal immigrants are 44.8% less likely to commit homicide, etc...

As far as there being a shortage of unskilled jobs due to illegal immigrants taking them, that is anything BUT true. If you are up-to-date on employment in the US, there is actually a HUGE labor shortage going on. This is more misinformation. I would advise looking into the labor shortages.

To expand briefly on a possible reason why I think there is such a great labor shortage is that the US (and most other developed countries for that matter) has had a decrease birth rate and is continuing to trend in that direction. I also blame feminism for why there is a decreased birth rate. If the trend continues, we are going to have to outsource more employees from other less developed nations (they ought to be legal though).

You're oblivious to a lot of your insults but you're forgiven because you're entertaining.

You are asking me to be a spokesperson for Trump, I am not. I cannot tell you what he meant, I can tell you how I understood what he said.

My understanding was this. He is talking to the National Association of Black Journalists, he assumed they were concerned about issues involving the Black community, hence he focused on how this was impacting the Black community. It is taking your jobs.

If it had been the National Association of Native American Journalists, or the National Association of Hispanic Journalists, or the National Association of Asian journalists he would have told them it was taking their jobs as well.

I have a master's degree and was a "Professional", what was considered a white collar job. But despite that growing up I worked doing yard work, I worked as a baby sitter, I worked in a fast food restaurant, I worked in construction and I did other manual labor. Just because someone is doing white collar work doesn't mean their kids aren't having their jobs taken or their cousins, or their friends, or their neighbors. I think people have become whiny little thin skinned weasels. Personally I do not know anyone who would be offended by this, so I think these little weasels work in the MSM trying to find things to be offended about. When I hear the term "black job" I think of the NBA, why didn't anyone point out that these immigrants are coming over here to play professional sports?