Dietary laws, do you keep them?

Your questions are ingorant and foolish because you are stuck in a false dichotomy. You think that either a person does their best to follow the law and thereby avoid sin, or they are profligate sinners with no restraint.

We who are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and filled with the Spirit of God are changed from within so that sin loses its appeal, while devotion to God and following His ways become the default.

We do not make the law void by grace.
You should in the power of the Spirit simply find yourself not having to be told what is in the law to fulfill the law.
Not having to be told. You will simply (if so inclined) not want to murder.

All the prohibitions in the law were there to expose to man how he is sinful.
The power of grace is given the faithful believer to not to want to sin. .

Carnal and reversionistic (backslidden) believers will in frustration find themselves being forced back under law
as long as they walk in their unspiritual state of being. Such can become pushy and legalistic about morality,
and attach themselves to imposing taboos upon a particular group they belong to.

Many like that will remain being under law until their death... Legalism.

Or until they can repent by finding themselves being made free by sound doctrinal teachings while empowered by grace.
In such a spiritual state of grace as to not be any longer imposed upon by their own sinful impulses.
They then will grow and become very relaxed and mature believers free of the conflict caused by law and sin.


If you are being led of the Spirit you will not want to do anything that the law says not to do!

It all boils down to a matter of self righteous legalism vs grace.

Warning: Grace benefits will die without securing sound doctrinal teaching on a regular basis.
"Our daily bread."


grace and peace .......

Now reverse that....


You eat Twinkies all the time.
Will you remain in good health?
In contrast...
Eat wholesome food all the time.

There will be a difference.

Twinkies is not food as God intended food to be, as He created it to be.
Twinkies contains chemicals and additives that God never designed into any food.
God did not denature the flour used that leads to a deficiency.

Now...

Give me a cake baked like one at a time before the advent of refined foods and man made additives?
I would thoroughly enjoy it with a nice cup of organic coffee. Coffee as God created it to be.

You just like to find reasons to argue......
That's a bad diet for the well being of the soul.

Enjoy your junk food. Pray over it.... Its still junk.
It does not give God the glory in knowing how He thought of all our needs
in how wholesome food (as he created it to be) is good for our sustenance.

Diabetes type 2 is one terrible consequence of what your lackadaisical thinking promotes.


But... enjoy.

And, Jesus was talking about mere sheep... not believers.

And, Jesus was talking about seeds.... not types of people.

You must live a very simple life.

I can appreciate your perspective, but you are missing some context. First off, these are Old Testament passages where God was talking to people under the Old Covenant. Today a person can put themself under the Old Covenant, but a newer and better covenant is now available. The Old Covenant was/is based on the physical, and therefore had a lot of physical commands and blessings. The New Covenant is a spiritual covenant and focuses more on spiritual state - the spirit of someone's choices and spiritual consequences, though these do naturally bleed into the physical as part of bearing fruit (John 15). Therefore the New Covenant isn't focused on physical behaviors to test obedience or to be different for the sake of being different (i.e. a peculiar people per Deut. 14:2 KJV). Rather, the New Covenant is about spiritually sourced motives (Romans 14, Ezek. 36:26-27, 2 Cor 3:3) and operating from understanding spiritual reality (truth) rather than from obedience ("I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you." John 15:15).

All covenants are currently still opened and will be until after Christ returns and they are fully fulfilled. The fact that the passage starts talking about what God will do in the future doesn't mean that everything mentioned in the chapter is applicable to the end times or to New Covenant followers of God - the New Covenant didn't even exist yet! Rather, God was skipping around, as is common with prophetic passages in the Bible. This is especially sensible here, though, since the Old Covenant will be applicable for some until the end comes.

I never said that. Why bear false witness?
What is that to you?
I'll eat what I want to eat, and drink what I want to drink.
They're a treat. I treat them as such.
Everything in moderation.
God didn't make flour at all. He made grains that we make into flour.
Great, you enjoy that.
You just like to tell people what to do while insisting you aren't doing that.
Physical food is for the well being of the body. Spiritual food (God's Word) is four the well being of the soul.
I will, in moderation.
One man's junk is another man's treasure.
I'm pretty sure that you have no idea what this sentence means either.
I'm well into my 60s and am not diabetic. Another prophecy gone wrong.
I will, thanks!

I do. It's nice.

I am not telling you what to do...

But? You are telling me what to do by telling me what I should not do.

Hello Soyeong.

Here is a passage from the book of Acts that you must explain.

Acts 15:8-10
And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit,
just as He also did to us; and He made no distinction between us and them,
cleansing their hearts by faith. Since this is the case, why are you putting God
to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our
forefathers nor we have been able to bear?

What is the yoke that was being placed on the shoulders of the Gentile disciples?

What is the yoke that the apostles and the forefathers had been unable to bear?

You're telling me what I should and shouldn't eat. That's telling me what to do. Why not just admit it?

Today we have recalls because people were eating unclean spinach...

Yet?
Spinach is a clean food according to the Bible!

Perhaps, you are missing what the term "unclean" meant to those who were living under the Law?

In Christ .......

Do you argue with a sign that says, 'slippery when wet?'

Telling you what is so, is not the same thing as telling you what to do.
It simply makes you accountable to choose what you want to do after knowing the facts.

Accountability, some people highly resent.
It all depends on how one's sin nature has been wired....

Learn to recognize it.

Whoops!
Just told you again, what to do!

You asked for a definition of sin.

There are two definitions given in the scripture.

The early Jewish definition is disobedience to the law.

The second definition of sin is the definition that Paul gave to the Gentiles.

Galatians 5:16-24
But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
For the desire of the flesh is against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh;
for these are in opposition to one another, in order to keep you from doing whatever
you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. Now the deeds
of the flesh are evident, which are: sexual immorality, impurity, indecent behavior,
idolatry, witchcraft, hostilities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition,
dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which
I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things
will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,
kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Now those who belong to Christ Jesus crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

So clearly, the most exhaustive definition of sin involves the passions and desires of the
flesh. And they are self evident.

Your no stranger to Paul's definition of sin in Galatians 5.

But wait there's more, "factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these"

It is clear that Paul never gave the Gentiles a simple list of rules to follow.

Paul defined sin as anything that is not of faith in Jesus Christ.

Interesting question.

Will you admit that your flesh is full of destructive passions and desires?

Have you ever thought someone was a fool?

Have you ever looked at a young woman with a lustful thought?

Have you at times wanted a lot more money in the bank?

You will find that you are dead in your flesh and you always have been.

The law condemned you, over and over again.

We have been instructed to live by the Spirit at all times.

We must bear the fruit of the Holy Spirit not the fruit of our flesh.

Christianity is not about what we can't do, Christianity is all about
bearing the fruit of the Holy Spirit.

Name one thing I told you not to eat that can not be found in a form that is good to eat?

When I was living in Israel we were warned not to eat certain vegetables that human excrement was used in their cultivation.
That they will cause dysentery.

It was not carrots we were told not to eat.
But to watch out for certain carrots.

You keep letting that distinction slip by you....

You still want to eat those carrots after being told how they were grown?
Be my guest! Dig right in.

Sorry for sounding like I was telling you what to do!
Heaven forbid!

grace and peace ..........

The law is spiritual so when you walk in the Spirit you will be obeying the law.

I have never pushed or promoted legalism. Self righteousness is not possible for us. We all need grace.

We are not under the law, the law can not hold us guilty when we have the righteousness of Jesus covering us.
But the bible is clear and tells us not to make the law void by grace.
Not to continue in sin.
To be perfect. Live like Jesus, live in the Spirit.
The Law is a guide to help us understand what sin is.
People throw the law away because they don't like being shown what is right and wrong.

So true
There are many definitions and they don't contradict each other.
Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

The question is are you willing to listen to all or only what suits you.

If you take all it includes the 10 commandments. This is a point of contention. People throw out the law because they want to be free from the guilt.
Jesus is the only way to free us from guilt.
By faith we can be fully forgiven.

We are directed to not sin and shown what sin is in many places. We can sum it up like Paul.. Rom 8:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Should we obey the law, and all the principles of righteousness. If we walk in the Spirit we will obey.

I did not admit that and you don't have grounds to accuse me of not accepting what the Bible says at face value when you cannot accept what all of the verses that I quoted that contradict your interpretation say at face value. If you hold to the truth of all of the Bible and there are verses that you read verses that appear to you to be contradicting each other, then the correct response is to think that you must have misunderstood one or more of those verses, not to pick one and reject all of the other verses that don't agree with your understanding of that verse.

Indeed, but what you are making an incorrect assumption about what the "the letter of the law" refers to and are ignoring major problems with your assumption. If the "letter of the law" refers to "correctly obeying God's instructions" and that leads to death, then that would mean that God would be misleading us and shouldn't be trusted.

God is sovereign, so the whole world is under His law and is accountable to refrain from sin, otherwise God would have no means by which to judge the world. While I agree that Christians are not under the law, Paul spoke about multiple different categories of law other than the Law of God, such as the law of sin and works of the law, so it should be worth discerning which law Paul was referring to as us not being under out of all of the categories of law that he spoke about rather than blindly assuming that he was referring to the Law of God as if it makes perfect sense to interpret a servant of God as speaking against obeying him and then to think that we should obey him instead of God. In Deuteronomy 13, the way that God instructed His children to determine that someone is a false prophet who is not speaking for Him was if they taught against obeying His law, so you are interpreting Paul in a way that makes him out to be a false prophet, but you lack the self-awareness to consider whether you have misinterpreted him.

While there are many verses that speak against earning our justification, righteousness, salvation and eternal life as the result of our obedience, there are nevertheless also many verses that support that those things require us to be an obeyer of God, which is not contradictory because there can be many reasons for why we are required to be an obeyer of God other than to earn those things as the result.

For example, in Hebrews 5:9, Jesus has become a source of eternal salvation for those who obey him, and in Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus said that only those who do the will of the Father will enter the Kingdom of Heaven in contrast with saying that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so it is clear that we are required to be a worker of lawfulness. In Romans 3:31, our faith upholds the Law of God, so everyone who has faith is a doer of the law and everyone who has faith will be justified, which is how Paul can affirm in Romans 2:13 that only the doers of the law will be justified while also denying in Romans 4:1-5 that we can earn our justification as the result of our obedience.

In Psalms 119:29-30, he wanted to put false ways far from him, for God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, and he chose the way of faithfulness by setting it before him, so this has always been the one and only way of salvation by grace through faith. In Titus 2:11-13, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so our obedience to God's law has nothing to do with trying to earn our salvation from God as the result, but rather God graciously teaching us to be doers of His law is the way that He is giving us His gift of salvation, which intrinsically requires our participation.