Protestantism. Is it over?

Being in control of things vs ruling and reigning are two totally different things. For the most part, God is allowing most things to happen in this dark world, however, his plan as stated in scripture will come to pass despite the darkness. When the Lord finally rules and reigns over this world, he will be ruling in righteous and holiness.

John Calvin blamed God. He stated that all things even sin is the determinate council of God.

Man allowed sin to come into the world

“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s not because God did it it’s because they sinned lol god warned then like he does us

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this isn’t Jesus sayong ignore what I’m saying I have a plan … he’s telling them the plan ….lol brother

What he tells us , is the plan lol he’sinvitong us to her and believe it


Imagine if Adam and Eve would have simply accepted and believed Gods commandment not to eat the fruit ? That was his plan lol what he told then would keep them safe

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s Gods plan brother to save anyone that will accept it . It was his plan before now it’s here and will end when he returns

But He didn't start over. He kept 8 people alive. Do you think the knowledge of the glory of the Lord was different with them after the flood compared to before? Do you think Abraham had a different perspective of the glory of God after God came and made Himself known compared to before? How about you? Has your knowledge of the glory of the Lord changed since you've been saved?

A greater knowledge of the glory of the Lord is why God does things as He does. History is building to a time where the knowledge of the glory of the Lord shall fill the earth as the waters cover the seas. Allowing sin has allowed God to make more of Himself, and thus His glory, known.

You’re kind of avoiding everything I’m showing you. Was genesis chaoter six Gods plan brother ? He planned to make man wicked then grieve his own heart nd repent for even creating them ? This is all Gods plan to bring himself to regret creating us ?

What you’re saying he didn’t destroy noah really doesn’t address what we were talking about God didn’t make Adam and Eve eat the fruit it want his plan . god didn’t plan for cain to kill abel he told him to repent and do what’s eighth and he’s be accepted . Free cain acres of his own volition and killed his brother then God responded to him this wasn’t all pre planned

God doesn’t cause us to do e writhing we do or stop us from doing things we would do ect you have to look at the overwhelming biblical evidence for mans free agency and position upon earth

And why Satan is trying so hard to corrupt them given tbier dominion and rightful inheritance because we are a very important part of Gods creation probably to him the most important part I would think

But I don’t know brother as usual we seem to have different ideas lately . I do love and appreciate your good spirit and word always however .

In my city both the Catholic Church and the Protestant Church are decreasing.

They both because of tradition were unable to adapt to the changing world.

In the newer suburbs of the city they probably don't exist.

Those days of Catholic and Protestant are long gone now.

After the cross, everything changed. A whole new order was set in place. Jesus was given all authority, and He began building His kingdom in earnest. He started the day of Pentecost, and has been adding daily since that time. This will continue until the knowledge of the glory of the Lord fills the earth. Just because this is happening gradually throughout history doesn't mean it isn't happening. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil and that's exactly what will happen. On the day of Pentecost there were less than a thousand Christians. That same day, the church more than tripled. From that time till now there have been millions of Christians. In glory, there will be a number no man can number. The church is still in it's infancy. And wherever a heart is converted, Jesus is ruling and reigning. It is a kingdom without borders and limited only by the constraints of God.

When did being a Christian become anything other than victory?

God deals with what is and makes it all work for good. God lives outside the choices of men. If no men repented He would raise up stones. Satan, nor anyone else, will frustrate God's plans.

Christ was given all authority, but he is not exercising that authority until his second coming. It is true, Christ's spiritual kingdom began at the resurrection, but Satan is still the ruler of the darkness of this world.

“God deals with what is and makes it all work for good”

Right I think I agree here with this sentance. It isn’t just there though lol we mankind rule earth we cause it and increase it look around the violence is us the war and greed and all of that evil we see is happening from and through mankind .

gods plan is always being hindered by man because it includes him as such an important aspect of the plan of creation to have man to rule the earth . But then we became corrupt and ruled it satans way rather than Gods way and then the result was we grieved God ms heart and he felt repentance for even creating us to begin with. because that’s not what he created us for we aren’t walking in his plan or his ( will ) what he has proclaimed his Will is throughout the Bible

summed up in active and real brotherly love between people in his name honoring the one who gave his life for ours in order to save man . Again because Gods children are a very important aspect of his plans of eternity when things will actually come to pass of the New Testament prophecy

On earth brother regarding the earth God have it to man and gave them dominion it’s the whole reason “ the son of man would be born to rule earth “

man is an important aspect when he gave Adam dominion over earth redemption comes through the “ son of man “ Jesus who came to restore what was lost in the beginning that right and restored relationship with God through him

Then how can Jesus build His church and the gates of hell are defenseless against it? Satan has no authority over Christians. Quite the opposite is true. Righteousness is the characteristic of Christ's kingdom and we are kings and priests of the Most High. Christ is definitely taking back what was lost in the garden and restoring all things. It's just going to take awhile.

“I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Sister can you hear that same offer here ?

i set before you life and death blessing and cursing

“And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden,

and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

( choose life that you may live )

And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:8-9, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s what the lord Jesus Christ and his gospel is , he died in order to set life before a world who all are condemned to die in sin because all have sinned. They can choose life or reject what he’s done it’s still a choice for each person created and given life by God everyone has proven a sinner

“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And as it is appointed unto men once to die,

but after this the judgment:”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Now he’s offered us a choice to be saved from the judgement and second death.

Thisnis God offering mankind a choice of life or death again like Adam and like the law

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

A gods Will is that everyone would receive the gospel and be saved but they won’t all choose it when they hear it like this

“The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, and sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭22:2-5, 8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if you notice those who were the chosen guests didn’t wanna come they chose other options “But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise”

tbey heard and didn’t want to come to the wedding but those who weren’t chosen lol tbey actually are the ones who attend the wedding and fill the house up

The ones who weren’t even a part of the wedding guest list now everyone’s invited

“Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭22:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

air was t a plan the plan was ruined because the guests didn’t want to come not because the lord failed but because when he came and said let’s go they wouldn’t they chose the world

If everything is pre determined and we don’t have choices in it all why does God keep setting life and death before man and pleading with them to choose life ?

and if he pre deternined everything and we don’t have choices and free Will then what’s this all about ? Thisnos totally unjust

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

aid It was all gods Will and plan why is he making people answer for thier own deeds and words they spoke ?

“For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God. ( he’s making then confess for what he willed and planned and pre determined ?)

So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” ( but it was all his Will and plan not our agency or choice ? )
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think “Pre destination “ is not understood well but what’s obvious is God doesn’t change and keeps telling man how to live and not die but we keep rejecting what he says . I think that’s always going to be what determines life and death

If we do this

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Or this

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48‬ ‭


Only my own thoughts I believe zgod has foreknowledge and also pre determines things that he is doing . I don’t believe he’s pre determined everything . I think he foreknew all things …. Just my own cooky thinking however the salt shaker should be used heavily probably sister

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All that you have mentioned has been true since the onset of sin. But there is more righteousness in the world than there has ever been. And the multiplication of sin has been exceeded by the multiplication of grace.
What I believe you and others are missing is that God's plan to fill the earth with the knowledge of His glory is still going forward and increasing. Every time someone gets saved, the knowledge of the glory of the Lord is increased. Every time God reveals Himself more fully to an individual, the knowledge of the glory of the Lord is increased.
You seem to measure the world in terms of the evil that exists. God measures the world in terms of how much of the earth is filled with His glory. The kingdom of God is like the mustard seed. It starts very small like a mustard seed and grows to the largest tree. It starts with a little leaven and eventually leavens the whole loaf. Everything is going as planned. Where sin abounds, grace is abounding much more.

As long as people are against the Roman Catholic Church, and go by the teachings of the Protestant movement it still going on.

Some people think the 7 Churches in Revelation are all in the 1st century but they are not.

It is a prophetic statement of how the Church age will go in popular influence.

The first Church left its first love and was told to correct it which seems like they were not helping the poor and the needy like when the Church started.

The next 3 Churches had terrible deception that increased through all 3 Church ages which they were called the synagogue of Satan.

Which is the Roman Catholic Church which it is obvious when they embraced Christianity they did not get rid of their pagan, and occult ways and it became their foundation for the interpreting of scriptures.

Which they ruled for many years as a popular influence.

Then the 5th Church did not have serious deception but was perfect in her ways and was told to correct it.

Which was the Protestant movement as they were weeding the falsehood out.

Then the 6th Church which Jesus said nothing against them which people were in the truth, and against the ways of the Catholic Church.

Jesus said He will deliver them from the temptation that shall tempt the whole world to try all people on earth.

How can there be the same temptation that will tempt all people of the earth at the same time.

It is when the world says Peace and safety when they go to a one world government which is in the future.

For the world has a choice to stay with God, get with God, or follow the world.

Which testifies that all 7 Churches were not in the 1st century.

Then the 7th Church that are hypocritical, and love money, and material things which is now.

Which God said they were wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked, and to correct it.

All 7 Churches influence is going on now for we see people neglecting the poor and needy, the Roman Catholic Church, the Protestant movement, and people believing the prosperity gospel.

But the Roman Catholic Church will regain power during the 7 years the New Age Christ works in the world.

God warns the saints of the new age movement which they interpret the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are evolving to be spiritual, and Jesus became an ascended master and is of the same belief, and there is no personal God, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher.

Which some shall depart from the faith and follow them.

The time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts, and be turned on to fables.

The Bible says the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts down the world.

Which they shall devour the whole earth, and tread it down in pieces, and stamp upon the residue of it.

Which they will do by way of the new age movement which when the New Age Christ works in the world he will push the agenda of the new age which he will think to change times and laws, and things will change drastically.

Since the Catholic Church is their religious institution, and their foundation is of the occult they can sway to go along with the world which is what they will do.

That is why Pope Francis elected 72% of the Cardinals so they would be in the majority position to elect the new Pope who will side with the New Age Christ.

And since the new age has an occult interpretation of the Bible it will be a popular religious leader preaching the Bible and that is the Pope.

Which he will be the unified religious leader over all the religions interpreted by the new age, and the Vatican the headquarters.

The Science community was set up to get people away from the Bible, a belief in a God, and belief in evolution, and then give them the new age interpretation.

Which they will make all things compatible with the new age beliefs, and reality, and say people have been interpreting the Bible wrong for years.

They have had the same technology for years, and now all of a sudden they have new discoveries about everything giving them a new perspective of all things.

But the new age has a time schedule and now is the time for this to come out.

They had a hand in the 1960's counter culture movement to get them away from the 1950's attitude which is the second wave of feminism.

This caused the behavior in society for the Woke movement to be born which they are trying to make it the major influence in society for they will accept the new age.

Which they believe the next evolutionary step is the 5th root race, 6th sub-race, and the germ of it is America.

The top leaders of the Republicans and Democrats are working together and America and Russia have been working together the whole time which is the Hegel System which they set up 2 opposing systems and then harmonize them with a balance between them that they believe is better than either system alone.

They will divide the world in to 10 sections with a leader in each section who will support the New Age Christ.

The American government, and the Mexican government does not do too much to stop the illegal immigrant problem for they want it to get out of hand so they can merge them as the solution along with Canada for 1 nation.

America dealt with Arab nations to keep them separated for they wanted to come together to have a defense against the European Union.

Which Saddam Hussein wanted to unite the Arab nations to rebuild Babylon which would put a damper in their plan but America has their own plan.

The presidents, and top political leaders said God bless you, and in God we trust, to keep the Christians and causing them to believe it was a Christian nation to keep them from coming together and raising a big fuss that would put a damper in their plan.

And to claim Christianity in the beginning and then slowly change it to the new age christianity.

Our God is a Consuming Fire

Genesis 2:17

Ezekiel 18:4 plus 32

Agreed brother, Satan has authority over us, but can tempt us. Christ will restore all things. He could do it right now, but has chosen not to, thus, he is waiting to rule and reign on this earth.

He is ruling and reigning. He is simply working gradually through history to bring all things under His feet. The kingdom of God is in us. We're on earth. He rules and reigns through us.

Eh? .