These strategies of the enemy could also be used against Christian forums

Exposing the Occult in Churches Secret Societies Unveiled: Billy Crone Speaks Out

Lord Jesus we pray that those who come to this forum, to Christianchat.com would be fed with the word of God, that it would be a sharp two edged sword dividing soul from spirit. Lord we ask that the word would shine brightly on this forum so that all could see that Jesus Christ is Lord of all and that they might be led out of the kingdom of darkness and see the folly of following Satan into the pit of hell.

If I wanted to go around suspicious all the time, always worried that people I know are secretly trying to pull me down, I would hang out in the conspiracy forum.

Personally, I prefer hanging out in the Singles Forum. Got some laid-back fun peeps there. Always a light, playful mood.

We are not ignorant of Satan's devices. This lackadaisical attitude is why the Apostasy has left the word of God.

Hardly believe that the Singles Forum is full of Satan's devices. BDF perhaps.

Satan can decide and conquer, but his strategies are as old as the fall. Of course the enemy has tried to do that on CC. But if we are searching for that and lose sight of Christ, he has partly succeeded. This thread could it self be used by the enemy to spread doubt and confusion.

If a felon is saved and begins a prison ministry no one questions this this will be used by the enemy. The apostle Paul was saved, a man who was persecuting Christians, James was a cult leader and Peter denied the Lord. Being saved from these things became the cornerstone of their ministries.

This person was saved from the occult and now has a ministry based on that.

I was not aware that they would use complaining to divide a church, but in Jude he uses the noun form of the word, the only place in the New Testament to do so. As a result this is part of the NT.

3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

It should be devide, not decide...

Jude -- This is what it is to contend for the Faith

1 Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ: 2 Mercy, peace and love be yours in abundance. 3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people.

I recently heard Dana Coverstone share a dream of his urging people to contend for the faith and instead they just watched. Also they were urged to cross the silver line which I understand to indicate salvation. Instead they were slaughtered by dark forces. Are there Christians that hope they will not have to “contend for the faith”? Do they think that if there is friction between the world and the church that we should be “meek” and “mild”, “long suffering” and “patient”? Preaching the gospel and more to the point, preaching righteousness is provocative and “as much as is possible we should be at peace with all people”.

That all sounds very spiritual and even Biblical. The problem is that it is not possible to compromise with the faith or with sin. Not only so but if we see sin and say nothing then we will be held accountable. We are not talking about gossip, backbiting, murmuring, or slander. The context is the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. So then, if we are talking about your cousin, or your neighbor do not apply this fellowship to that situation. On the other hand if we are indeed talking about the faith that was once for all entrusted to us, then this chapter is urging us to contend for it. The violent take the kingdom by force. We will not be threatened or intimidated to give up one inch of this faith, we will not compromise with the the Faith.

We do not bow the knee to ungodly people who creep in are condemned, and try to pervert the grace of God.

4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you.

This has been a recurring theme in his dreams with dark ninja-like warriors slipping in among those who were spectators and in other dreams described them as wolves with red eyes. It is time to wake up. They have slipped in among our churches, among our teachers, among our politicians, among those that make the movies or present the news. Yes, they have slipped in among those on this forum.

They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

Christians have been condemned repeatedly for being sexist and for being judgmental towards homosexuals. Ridiculed for questioning the theory of evolution, and pressured to open up to all religions as all worshipping the same God. “A license for immorality”. In the schools the law is being changed so that a boy can use a girl’s bathroom and if a teacher or supervisor were to complain they will be fired. Everyone in the inner city knows that we must patrol the stairwells and make sure no classroom is left unlocked because teenagers are looking for an opening for immorality. This new law is the license they have sought. Boys can now go into the girls bathroom and have sex and if a teacher objects they will be fired.

5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe.

One of God’s goals in that deliverance was that the Egyptians would know that He is God. Likewise at the end of this age everyone will know that Jesus is Lord and savior. Jude’s point here is not so much about the deliverance as it is about those who did not believe being destroyed. These ones secretly creep in because the worst thing for them is to shine the light on them and expose them. We are called not merely to preach the gospel of salvation but also to contend for the faith. In a nutshell the faith is that Jesus is Lord, every knee will bow, and you need to do what He says. We do not bow the knee to ungodly people who creep in are condemned, and try to pervert the grace of God.

6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.

The book of Enoch goes into great detail on what happened when they fell, were judged, and were bound. This is what we will see if we are being attentive, they did not keep their position of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling. For example, the Attorney General is threatening legal action against the audit in Arizona. He has no authority over the audit in Arizona. The US constitution is very clear that elections are under local jurisdiction, not federal. The AG’s “proper dwelling” is the constitution but he is abandoning that.

7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

We are given several historical examples for our admonition concerning the end of this age. One example of course is Noah, when they entered the ark and closed the door then the rain came and destroyed the then known world. A second example is Egypt, one plague after another, each becoming more and more severe, until Pharaoh thrust the Israelites out of Egypt. Once again the crossing of the Red Sea while Pharaoh’s armies were destroyed is quite symbolic. Another example is Sodom and Gomorrah, the day Lot left God rained fire down on the cities. It is very easy to see that there are many in the US who have given themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. The Music awards show should have been X rated. It was on prime time TV and yet a major act in the presentation of the awards was a lesbian sex scene. Fornication is confusion and that is what we have today. Who knows how many “genders” they have now. What started out as people condemning hate crimes and human rights abuses against people who were LGTBQ turned into the US embassy flying the Gay Pride flag! What happened, as Christians we condemn abusive behavior towards anyone, that doesn’t mean we want to fly a Gay Pride flag over our house or over our country.

“The Lord rebuke you!”

8 In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings.

The ungodly people are acting in the very same way as the angels that fell. If they heap abuse on you as you share the gospel know that this has all been prophesied. For some the gospel is a sweet fragrance of life unto life. For others it is the smell of judgement unto condemnation. Every time we turn around someone is heaping abuse on someone else. I watch a video of a teacher heaping abuse on a small boy around 5 years old because she made cupcakes that were only for those who identified as gay and he identified as straight. We are watching protests all over the country where they reject authority.

9 But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”

We need to be careful. It is possible to overreact to their rejection of authority with our own insubordination. Jesus is Lord, not us. We are not in a position to judge, only to preach the saving grace that still operates. You do not need to compromise with someone who is ungodly and yet in authority. Learn from Michael, they are not the Lord, Jesus is Lord.

10 Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them.

Slanderers, not only so, but ignorant of what it is they are slandering. They are acting irrationally in a way that is very destructive not only to others but to themselves as well. They tear down statues of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt. Lincoln said that if he could have avoided the Civil War he would have let the South continue with slavery. You can’t take that quote out of the context of history, he campaigned on no slavery in the free states and no more slave states added. It had become apparent to the South that slavery could not compete with the industrialized North. The South knew that they had to have the North work with them on slavery or else their economy would collapse. Lincoln knew it too. His point was not that there was any possibility that he would have had slavery but rather that it was not his fault they had a civil war. His point was that the South was fully to blame and was guilty for the blood shed during that war. Then their issue with Teddy Roosevelt is even more irrational. There is a statue out front of the Museum of Natural History that shows Roosevelt on a horse with a Native American and an African man standing next to him. These two figures are personifying the continents of North America and Africa because the museum houses a vast array of animals from these two continents. Teddy Roosevelt is there because he was a world famous naturalist and the one most responsible for collecting the Museum’s specimens. This has nothing to do with racism or any abusive practices, it has to do with the natural history of these two continents.

Foaming out their shame

11 Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion.

It is as though all the negative examples throughout history are all on display today. Cain killed his brother out of jealousy. For what? Because his business selling sheep and wool was outperforming Cain’s business selling vegetables and fruit? Greed, envy, jealousy, hatred all expressed by Cain. Balaam is more subtle. A professional prophet, a prophet for hire. Like the “fake news” agencies. We don’t have to shoot you, slander your business and we can kill you that way. We can’t be obvious, we hire someone known to be faithful to tell us God’s word and let him show us how to do it. The cigarette companies hired a PR firm that pushed the idea that “we don’t know” that cigarettes are addictive. It was a lie and when it got exposed they all went down the tubes. The NFL hired the same firm to teach them to say we don’t know that football causes brain injuries. And now we see those caught up in Korah’s rebellion, trying to rebel against God’s law, against His word, against the church His representative on the earth. Today the churches are the embassies of the kingdom of the heavens. But in country after country they violate the sovereignty of that embassy. It will provoke sudden destruction from the Lord.

12 These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. 13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.

You don’t just see them as leaders of corporations, PR firms, and governments. They have also infected the church. Shepherds who only feed themselves with their “prosperity gospel”. Clouds without rain, that is a politician who gets elected on a platform of lies. Biden promised to forgive college loans, that was an empty promise. Harris promised to do away with the human rights abuses at the border, an empty promise. They are blown by the wind, whatever the radical left wants they do. It seems nothing is too radical for them. Biden looks like an autumn tree, a tree who has lost all its leaves. What are his “roots”? He doesn’t have any, there is nothing that he stands for, nothing that you can say that is what he cares about. Omar going on and on about how the US is a terrorist nation, she is wild waves of the sea foaming out her shame.

Beware of grumblers.

14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”

I am really taken by this “the Lord is coming with myriads of His holy ones”. We are being trained into His army, He has raised up the church to be His army. We are not fighting for the Lord, we are fighting with the Lord. When you contend for the faith remember that, you are not alone, the Lord is with you.

This is a quote from the book of Enoch (Enoch 1). It is clear that Jude and John both quote from the book of Enoch, but I would extend that to Peter and Paul as well. There are passages in both of their writings that seem to be taken straight from Enoch 1 or based very much on what is written in Enoch 1. So I think it is fair to say the prophecies in the book of Enoch have been certified by the apostles. However, it is not part of the Old Testament, that doesn’t mean it isn’t of God. The Old Testament is His covenant with His people. It is a contract. It isn’t part of that contract, yet it is a prophecy of what is going to happen. Isaiah 45:3 I will give you hidden treasures, riches stored in secret places, so that you may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel, who summons you by name.

16 These people are grumblers and fault finders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.

We are not ignorant of Satan’s devices or what is about to happen. We can see it unfold, worship God, but do not be dragged into the pit with them. They are a pathetic joke. AOC went public railing against Trump because her grandmother’s house was still damaged from Hurricane Maria. So a conservative talk show started a go fund me page to pay for repairs to her home and raised enough to fix up her entire neighborhood. But AOC shut it down saying they wouldn’t take the money. So it wasn’t about her grandmother’s house being fixed at all, rather it was about being a fault finder and a grumbler. This word "grumbler" is the noun form of complain and is only used in the book of Jude. Every New Testament book has seven words each that are unique to that book. Those seven words define what is unique about each book, this is one of those seven words for the book of Jude that define this book. Beware of grumblers.

These are the people who divide you

17 But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18 They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. 20 But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.

Today you can see those who appear to have no purpose other than to divide people. Race baiting, many nasty attempts to divide people. They are scoffers, they are insulting, derisive, and mocking. You have to keep yourself in God’s love, you have to wait for mercy. They are shepherds that feed only themselves. Look at the BLM founder who bought $4 million in houses for her family and yet BLM took in billions and didn’t give one dime to the inner city to help minorities.

22 Be merciful to those who doubt;

there are others who legitimately doubt, be merciful to them. Some have been taken in by all the hate and vitriol and don’t yet realize they are being lied to.

23 save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.

This is what it is to contend for the faith. “Snatching them out of the fire” that is what happened to Lot, that is a picture of the last rapture of believers during the tribulation.

24 To him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy— 25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

Shhhh! We don't want this crap showing up there too!

Oh have mercy!.. 😆

🤦🤦 and 🤦!

Instead, you go around willfully ignorant - without realizing or caring that some folks post things like this so that you might be better informed about the true reality of the world you live in and avoid being "pulled down" by evil forces all around you...

A light, playful mood is a good thing - one we all need. However, sometimes - a more serious look at the reality of our world is required also.

Yes, yes, the sky is falling. Again.

Wait, is it still falling or is it falling again? It's so hard to keep track of this stuff.

The sky has been falling since I was a kid, but it hasn't fallen yet. All the conspiracy theories I have heard from youth have not come to fruition.

So it's hard to tell if the sky is falling again or if it is just still falling.