He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

Act 2:38 KJV: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This is ONE verse of a few that have baptism being put with remission (forgiveness) of sin.

A contradiction of Mark 16:16?

No..

(Mar 16:16) KJV: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Notice the later part of this verse. Being damned is conditioned on not believing. Not on 'not getting water baptised'

Often we can put a verse into it's opposite and think it is true. For eg.. 'He that believeth and is not baptised shall not be saved.'

The problem is.. this is false logic. Not everything put in opposite of a positive statement is true. Just compare Mark 16:16 with John 5:24, 6:40, 10:28, Romans 10:9-10. Where is the weight of scripture? What is it saying? Do you establish a doctrine of water baptism for salvation based on a few verses.. or the full weight of scripture?

Same goes for Acts 2:38

Act 2:38 KJV: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This is ONE verse of a few that have baptism being put with remission (forgiveness) of sin.

Key question: Who is Peter talking to?

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

What were they called to do first? Get water baptised?

No-- repent.. having a change of mind, heart from God.

The other part of this..is being baptised in the name of Jesus 'for' the remission of sin.

In English grammar.. you can be given something 'for' an illness.

So.. you get water baptism 'for' the fact of already having remission of sin. Now.. so you will say I am just interpreting this to match my own wishes.. but what does the full weight of scripture say about eternal salvation? How many verses.. again.. have not water baptism in them.. but are about receiving eternal life?

A contradiction of Mark 16:16?

No..

(Mar 16:16) KJV: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Notice the later part of this verse. Being damned is conditioned on not believing. Not on 'not getting water baptised'

Often we can put a verse into it's opposite and think it is true. For eg.. 'He that believeth and is not baptised shall not be saved.'

The problem is.. this is false logic. Not everything put in opposite of a positive statement is true. Just compare Mark 16:16 with John 5:24, 6:40, 10:28, Romans 10:9-10. Where is the weight of scripture? What is it saying? Do you establish a doctrine of water baptism for salvation based on a few verses.. or the full weight of scripture?

Same goes for Acts 2:38

Act 2:38 KJV: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This is ONE verse of a few that have baptism being put with remission (forgiveness) of sin.

Key question: Who is Peter talking to?

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

What were they called to do first? Get water baptised?

No-- repent.. having a change of mind, heart from God.

The other part of this..is being baptised in the name of Jesus 'for' the remission of sin.

In English grammar.. you can be given something 'for' an illness.

So.. you get water baptism 'for' the fact of already having remission of sin. Now.. so you will say I am just interpreting this to match my own wishes.. but what does the full weight of scripture say about eternal salvation? How many verses.. again.. have not water baptism in them.. but are about receiving eternal life?

...and, once again, the baptism unto salvation is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, not water. Water baptism has zero to do with salvation. However, it is important for new believers to do because Jesus said to. Water baptism is the first act of obedience a new believer should do. It is important because the baptism of the Holy Spirit can not be seen by the human eye. It is a spiritual baptism.

Water baptism serves as a witness to both the Church and to mankind that a person has become a believer in and follower of Jesus. That is it's significance. You can water baptize a sinner from now 'till kingdom come and all you will have is a very wet and possibly angry sinner tired of being dunked.

Only the precious blood of Jesus can cleanse one of their sin. Only the precious blood of Jesus!

Jeremiah 13
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

It's simple--get water baptized. The Lord gave us His example to follow; all the believers in scripture got baptized right away when they became believers; and the teaching all through the New Testament instructs believers to get baptized. Does it save? No. But that's no reason not to get baptized when we have crystal clear teaching that we should. It's not rocket science.

Interesting that you say baptism does not save , when Peter says that it does.

1Peter 3:21. Acts 2:38 says it is for the forgiveness of sins; Acts 22:16 says it “washes away sins”; and Jesus Himself puts it BEFORE salvation —not after salvation.

1Peter 3:21. Acts 2:38 says it is for the forgiveness of sins; Acts 22:16 says it “washes away sins”; and Jesus Himself puts it BEFORE salvation —not after salvation.

Interesting that you say baptism does not save , when Peter says that it does.

1Peter 3:21. Acts 2:38 says it is for the forgiveness of sins; Acts 22:16 says it “washes away sins”; and Jesus Himself puts it BEFORE salvation —not after salvation.

1Peter 3:21. Acts 2:38 says it is for the forgiveness of sins; Acts 22:16 says it “washes away sins”; and Jesus Himself puts it BEFORE salvation —not after salvation.