Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

He is also saying it is the wicked who does that. He is not saying everyone is wicked. That everyone is wicked is your stance. Everyone is a sinner from birth but that is not the same as being wicked. One learns evil and wickedness. God is able to declare who the wicked are from birth because he knows the end from the beginning.

You need to stop pulling out verses and throwing them at people like javelins and learn to look at scripture holistically.

Actually, what we are really arguing with is your ignorance.

Its God that is saying they come from the womb speaking lies, your arguing is with God. BTW all men by nature are wicked, sinners duh

your arguing is with God, His Truth

I believe what I just posted and you quoted, cant you read ?

Its God that is saying they come from the womb speaking lies, your arguing is with God

Do stillborns and babies go to ‘hell’?

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Romans 7:8-11. I was alive once without the law when I was a child... I had no understanding of the law as a child and I was sinless because where there is no law, there is no sin. But when I became old enough to understand the law, sin slew me.

John 9:41 Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of your sin. But now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.

Romas 7:7 … I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 10 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came [to me], sin sprang to life and I died.

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One is born innocent, and remains so, until one reaches the point where they think they know enough to make a decision about sin/God. Being born into sin, means we live in a world that is predisposed to make sure we make the wrong decision about God. Until they understand and decide, babies have no sin to die from.




Thoughts?

You're welcome to your opinion.

Have a nice day.

This thread is about stillborn babies which you claim lie.

You going to explain how a dead baby lies?

Use common sense.

Oh boy....

Psalm 58:3 Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies.

This is the language of hyperbole, and is certainly not the profession of the doctrine of original sin. You've just exposed yourself as having no reading comprehension skills.


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In the end, I think we should let the Lord decide these things.

Its God that is saying they come from the womb speaking lies, your arguing is with God

What you see as arguing with God, is what every person in there life time does at some point

People fall into desperate places

And lose there love.

It's not that there incapable of loving or that not loving should be seen as a worse sin than others, it's case they need to find the love again..

Do you ever even stop to pray for all theese babies you think might not have any love.

Do you ever pray for a blind man,

I have never met or heard of child that doesn't get upset when they don't feel loved.

Which means they all have love in them.

Which as an adult it's the adult responsibility to restore children who are feeling unloved.

Jesus said see to it you despise my little one's which means he views all children as needing love.

Which means Jesus recognises that when a person is not loving we are to not Judge them as if there evil but to understand and pray for guidance. And seek guidance.

A blind man is no different really.

To a healthy adult who is not blind is no different,

If an adult has never had love or correct love as a child, they to are need of help. If there not loving.

Obviously this is where all these issues arise with fake Calvinism


Jean Calvin said every person is divinely sown a seed.

So why can't you follow that.

Why you choose to go to the condition of people in the old testament over the new testament.

I dealt with the subject of stillborn babies, cant you read ?

I dealt with the subject of stillborn babies, cant you read ?

Its God that is saying they come from the womb speaking lies, your arguing is with God

What you see as arguing with God, is what every person in there life time does at some point

People fall into desperate places

And lose there love.

It's not that there incapable of loving or that not loving should be seen as a worse sin than others, it's case they need to find the love again..

Do you ever even stop to pray for all theese babies you think might not have any love.

Do you ever pray for a blind man,

I have never met or heard of child that doesn't get upset when they don't feel loved.

Which means they all have love in them.

Which as an adult it's the adult responsibility to restore children who are feeling unloved.

Jesus said see to it you despise my little one's which means he views all children as needing love.

Which means Jesus recognises that when a person is not loving we are to not Judge them as if there evil but to understand and pray for guidance. And seek guidance.

A blind man is no different really.

To a healthy adult who is not blind is no different,

If an adult has never had love or correct love as a child, they to are need of help. If there not loving.

Obviously this is where all these issues arise with fake Calvinism


Jean Calvin said every person is divinely sown a seed.

So why can't you follow that.

Why you choose to go to the condition of people in the old testament over the new testament.

Yes,you said they talk.
You said they lie soon as they came out of the womb.

Fact is.These verses are not speaking about stillborns and dead babies at all.

That is your addition to these verses.


58 Do ye indeed speak righteousness, O congregation? do ye judge uprightly, O ye sons of men?
2 Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in the earth.
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;
5 Which will not hearken to the voice of charmers, charming never so wisely.
6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O Lord.



Anyone with common sense knows a stillborn doesn't tell lies.Stillborns and dead babies don't speak at all.

What happened to your common sense?

No, I'm arguing that you can't understand when God is using figurative speech.


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Its God that is saying they come from the womb speaking lies, your arguing is with God