Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Nehemiah6

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"Boris tells the truth and nails it"

Yet Boris was the one who sabotaged the peace deal.
 

ZNP

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There is no way out of this morass for politicians, doesn't matter if it is Trump. I say that knowing that if the entire country from the least to the greatest would fall on their knees, repent and call on Jesus Christ to save them that we could see salvation. But neither candidate is running with that message and it is very clear that half the country would absolutely refuse that message. Because of this judgement is determined and it has been confirmed by much more than two or three witnesses.

With that in mind, now take a look at this election. Donald Trump is God's way of condemning the nation. Everything they accuse him of they are guilty of. All of the heinous judgement they want to give to him is what God will give to them. Do you think Trump is the only one to have paid for "hush money"? Is he the only one who has given the highest possible estimate to his net worth in applying for a loan? Is he the only one who ever questioned an election? Is he the only one that ever told a dirty joke? My advice to everyone watching this is to plead the blood of Jesus and ask for your sins to be washed away. Pointing the finger at someone else and condemning them, that is a very bad approach.

So then what are the issues in this election?

1. As Bill Barr said "we are playing Russian Roulette with Russia. WW3 should be our biggest issue. Remember we were told that Trump was unstable and would get us into WW3 in the last election, if it was an issue then shouldn't it be a much bigger issue now? The question should not be who would you rather have lying to you and telling you everything is fine, the question should be who, out of the two presumptive nominees, do you want to steer the US as a wartime consigliere.

2. The economic situation is dire. For those who have a hard time understanding big numbers, let's put this into numbers you can understand. Assume you make 100k a year after taxes. Your rent and other expenses that you cannot change come to 33k a year. The interest payment on your credit card debt is now 35k a year. In addition to all that your wife is spending 80k a year for other stuff. But it is worse because you are being sued for everything you have (WW3 between Russia, Iran, NATO and the US) and so you have to pay for a lawyer to defend you. But your credit cards are all maxed out (no one is buying US bonds) and so the only way to get the money for the lawyer is to go to loanshark. This should be the major issue in this election. When you look at Laticia James trying to get $450 million from Trump or take one of his towers you should understand that this is how the US government will soon be paying its bills.

These are two existential threats where in a matter of two or three years the US could cease to exist as we know it.

3. Immigration is also a major issue. Trump told you this was a big issue back in 2016. I get that virtue signaling about being pro immigrant, anti xenophobe, sanctuary city may have seemed like the right approach. But take a look at San Francisco, Oakland, Chicago, NYC, and Denver. The Sanctuary cities have been completely exposed as frauds. Anyway, this should be a key issue and you should decide between the two presumptive nominees which way you would choose, and the difference between the two cannot be any clearer.

Now despite having three very huge issues for some reason the MSM like MSNBC wants to ignore these three issues and instead make this a popularity contest between Trump and Biden. Obviously (just look at the rallies) Biden will lose a popularity contest. So this is the bizarro version of a popularity contest, which candidate do you hate more? Again, there is a lot to hate about Biden, but because he looks so incapable of doing anything without a nurse assisting him he appears pathetic rather than heinous. So the argument is that Trump is dangerous and Biden is "harmless". Do you really want someone who is "harmless" running the country at a time of war and economic collapse?
 

cv5

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Unfortunately, I cannot post the actual link. Too much foul language.
You can check twitter for yourself. Biden was tarred and feathered more or less.



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Joe’s hometown of Scranton PA was not exactly welcoming.
 

cv5

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Futures Tumble, Oil And Gold Soar On Reports Of "Huge Explosions" In Central Iran, Israeli Airstrikes In Iraq And Syria

Moments ago futures dumped, oil prices spiked, and treasury yields slumped amid social media reports and Reuters headlines that there have been three "huge explosions" near the central Iran cities of Natanz (location of an Iranian nuclear power plant) and Isfahan (location of the Iranian Nuclear Technology Center which is suspected of being the center of Iran's nuclear weapons program), as well as simultaneous explosions in Iraq and Syria, where the Israel air force appears to be targeting pro-Iranian militias
 

gb9

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Futures Tumble, Oil And Gold Soar On Reports Of "Huge Explosions" In Central Iran, Israeli Airstrikes In Iraq And Syria

Moments ago futures dumped, oil prices spiked, and treasury yields slumped amid social media reports and Reuters headlines that there have been three "huge explosions" near the central Iran cities of Natanz (location of an Iranian nuclear power plant) and Isfahan (location of the Iranian Nuclear Technology Center which is suspected of being the center of Iran's nuclear weapons program), as well as simultaneous explosions in Iraq and Syria, where the Israel air force appears to be targeting pro-Iranian militias
and here we go... off to the races....
 

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So True_believer can you give us an idea of what the Biden supporters think?
And what relevance does that have to do with Trump being unfit as a leader and his criminal behaviour?
 

true_believer

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The first woman in this video reveals a lot about the mindset of the MAGA cult. She says she's ready for civil war if Trump loses again; and she says she doesn't really know what it is about Trump, only that he has that "charisma."

This is dangerous stuff. She doesn't even know what it is that makes her like Trump so much. These are the kinds of people in MAGA; they don't even know what they're voting for, they only know they have to vote for Trump or we're doomed.

MAGA Grandma: "I'm Ready For Civil War if Trump Loses in 2024"

Hopefully in a few years, this blight on American culture and politics will vanish completely.
 

ZNP

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And what relevance does that have to do with Trump being unfit as a leader and his criminal behaviour?
Well, to start with what do the Biden supporters think about his criminal behavior and about him being unfit as a leader?
 

gb9

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Well, to start with what do the Biden supporters think about his criminal behavior and about him being unfit as a leader?
that is simple- they do not ever acknowledge that biden has done anything.

they list what they think trump has done wrong..

i know this . i sometimes interact with them on social media...
 

ZNP

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that is simple- they do not ever acknowledge that biden has done anything.

they list what they think trump has done wrong..

i know this . i sometimes interact with them on social media...
yep, the more they dodge and weave the less credible they are and the more disingenuous they appear.