Predestination is misunderstood...

those who were predestined.

Rom 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom 8:30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

I agree with you.
The very basis in our way of life is we must "believe" in Jesus.
A newborn, even a child 4 to 5 maybe not old enough to understand this.
There's definitely an "Age of Accountability" when we consider "how old is someone" to know what belief in Jesus means?
Any age before that has no accountability.

He justly keeps in darkness those He hates.

If its "quite clear?" It should be no problem showing me with Scripture exactly what happened...

I would like to know what you know, please. Because, I can't see it yet.

Funny, I don't see anywhere in there you are to judge another's relationship with the Lord?

Like I said...speculation. it's beyond what scripture declares.

why do you keep repeating me?

God delivered His people from the condemnation and guilt of sin. He is delivering them from the power of sin this side of eternity but they will only be freed from the presence of sin in eternity.

God works all things together for the good of His people who love Him, even the sin they have been made to hate does so (Rom 8:28).

Rom 5:20 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

what sin did he forgive you at birth when you where born

Noah was the only righteous man of his generation. He made it easy for God.
Moses saw his people being mistreated and killed an Egypt. He made it easy for God.
Same with Joshua and that whole list.
They were faithful to God before God used them.

That list is a joke how it is portrayed. Very deceitful.

That's the Reformed for ya.

time and time again You've all been asked to prove it was satan in the garden, and time and time again you ain't proven nothing

Paul even writes about Martyrdom because watching Stephen began a change in him.
He heard the Gospel preached to him first hand from Stephen like he writes later: Hearing leads to Faith.

These picto-messages are a big joke.

Luk_6:44 For every tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they gather grapes from a bramble bush.

Those who say that they have faith in their faith in Christ rather than faith in the person and work of Christ are still under the curse and are not yet saved because God resists the proud and only gives grace to the humble.

Jer 17:5 Thus says the LORD: "Cursed is the man who trusts in man And makes flesh his strength, Whose heart departs from the LORD.

2Co_13:5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified.

Php_2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;

2Pe_1:10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble;

lest you be found with those who looked to their deeds and heard the words below.

Mat 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
Mat 7:23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Those whom God chooses before time are saved in eternity but born into a cursed world and justified in time by grace through faith in the blood of Christ.

You said: "Satan can do nothing without the Lord's permission".

Nowhere in the Bible is this stated. Satan can do nothing without man's permission. God made man master of the earth. Man gives permission to satan to kill, steal and destroy when he obeys satan's will. Whoever is doing sin makes himself a slave of sin. Mn also gives satan permission to kill, steal and destroy when man believes satan's lies that contradict what the scriptures say.

God does graciously limit satan's effectiveness against those who trust in God, like Job, because faith pleases God and He chooses to bless faith. Man was given legal dominion over Adam, since it was surrendered to him by Adam when Adam sinned. He is the God of this world in that he does his will among those who believe his lies and in ignorance or in belligerence do his will.

You said: "I never said Adam's sin and guilt was passed down. I said the consequences of his sin was passed down. When he sinned, he died spiritually and that caused a genetic mutation. Another law (as per Rom.7) entered his flesh and as flesh begets flesh (Jn.3:6) we inherited that law. It is this genetic fault that acts much like the serpent in the garden did by tempting us to sin and because we are spiritually dead and without the knowledge of God we answer the temptation as best we know how which is based on our own understanding ergo, we sin."

I agree with the bold part, but then you wander off into unscriptural Christianese rationalising jargon not found in the Bible. "Spiritual death" is not mentioned anywhere in scripture. Death is physical death, or the second physical death or a sentence of future physical death. It is also used metaphorically of continually putting to death daily the old man, the flesh. I just don't see "spiritual death" anywhere.
I don't think it says anywhere that Adam died spiritually. It does say that he would die within 1000 years, which is within one day of his sin. The lord is not slack concerning His promises as some consider slackness. A day with the Lord is a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. And Adam, and every descendant of Adam, has died physically within one "day", 1000 years. Why any need to creat a category of spiritually dead, and spiritual death?

You said: "You say mortality was decreed upon all men yet give me no explanation for death except "the devil did it". You would have no natural death but make every death supernatural. Go take a lesson in biology. Are you even aware there are creatures that don't die?"

God's decree is the reason we die. Why God chose to make death within 1000 years universal for all because of Adam's sin is a matter of conjecture. It would seem to limit the amount of damage one individual can do, and it would seem to limit the amount of damage one individual can suffer. It would seem to provide an impetus to get into harmony with God, if I could die today and have to face a judgment. I did not say only the devil is the cause, I suggested animals, demons, men, and poisons in the environment (which would include disease-causing causes). There may be other sources of death for an innocent baby as well. But please, don't straw man your conversation partners just to appear to be winning a debate. That is not a helpful strategy in a genuine search for truth.

I know... I said that for his sake....

A Whale is brought forth on salt water and its mother conceives it in salt water, but it does not have salt water circulating around inside its body. We are all born in a world saturated in sin, and are all conceived in a world saturated in sin. But this does not mean we are born and conceived with sin in us.

Yet, you were not born again until you knowingly believed in Christ.

In other words? You were not born regenerated.
That's why Jesus said we need to be born again.

I said that to clear up some ambiguity your wording could have led some into....

Does that mean Psalm 51:5 is fantasy?

Amplified Bible

I was brought forth in [a state of] wickedness; In sin my mother conceived me
[and from my beginning I, too, was sinful].

Sir.... you are failing your discipleship course....

God choses us for a purpose.