Neither Trump nor Biden are Popular, hmm

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p_rehbein

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It is the first time in my life I can remember both Candidates having a greater unfavorable rating than favorable. It seems the majority of Americans do not want either for President, right? What to make of this? It does not say much for our Political Parties in my opinion.

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Neither candidate is viewed as more popular than unpopular, recent polling has consistently shown, with more people disapproving of both than approving. Analysts have said that both will struggle to entice voters to turn out for the election due to their disenchantment with the choice of candidates.

The latest ABC/Ipsos poll found that 36 percent thought Trump was trusted to do a better job as president to 33 percent who thought Joe Biden would—but 30 percent thought neither would.

(here)

Donald Trump Stung as New Poll Shows How Unpopular He Is

17 hours ago · Donald Trump Stung as New Poll Shows How Unpopular He Is. ... The latest ABC/Ipsos poll found that 36 percent thought Trump was trusted to do a better job as presid

I wonder if this election will have an Historic low turn out of voters?
 

Susanna

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Probably. I’m gonna sit this one out. It’s physically impossible for me to actually cast a vote for any of these candidates.
 

wolfwint

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Probably. I’m gonna sit this one out. It’s physically impossible for me to actually cast a vote for any of these candidates.
Would I am a American, i would support the reb., but Trump is a bad representer of biblical values. And he loves himself more then the nation he would reign.
 

Mission21

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Would I am a American, i would support the reb., but Trump is a bad representer of biblical values. And he loves himself more then the nation he would reign.
"Can Europe Survive Trump 2.0?"
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I remember..after 2016 election..
-my German friend said..
-"Many people in Europe are surprised/stunned"
 

mailmandan

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Traitors to the left of me sell outs to the right here I am stuck in the middle with you. If Biden (or any other Democrat) wins the 2024 election, then America will continue down the path to destruction. If Trump wins the 2024 election, America will still remain on the path to destruction, because not enough people will have his back and the left will revolt and stir up more civil unrest and I would not be surprised if we see another pandemic. The regime is determined to destroy America at all costs and only God can save America now.
 

wolfwint

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"Can Europe Survive Trump 2.0?"
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I remember..after 2016 election..
-my German friend said..
-"Many people in Europe are surprised/stunned"
If he is doing what he says, it sounds not good. But, we have our 2% now gor defense. :) And in this he was right.
 

wolfwint

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2% isn't going to be enough,,,two days ago... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68533351 not another penny.
Honestly, I cant understand Trump regarding this. America Was for Me so long I can think back the country of freedom. Against slavery and surpression. The ucrainian are in a freedom war. To loose it mean to loose freedom and to live under russian surpression. With an leader not better then Lenin or Stalin.
And the president of the USA says no to support? I would expect an leader of such an great country would help.

From biblical view.
The world will never be as it was before.
And we have to expect the time of antichrist to come.
I suppose what ever will come, it will lead to this szenario.
Hope many people will turn to Christ before and the rapture will be before.
 

iamsoandso

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Honestly, I cant understand Trump regarding this. America Was for Me so long I can think back the country of freedom. Against slavery and surpression. The ucrainian are in a freedom war. To loose it mean to loose freedom and to live under russian surpression. With an leader not better then Lenin or Stalin.
And the president of the USA says no to support? I would expect an leader of such an great country would help.

From biblical view.
The world will never be as it was before.
And we have to expect the time of antichrist to come.
I suppose what ever will come, it will lead to this szenario.
Hope many people will turn to Christ before and the rapture will be before.

In Revelation 19,,verses 17-21 it describes the condition of the earth at his return. It doesn't describe an gentile nation that rises up as "the good guy's" and is in the midst of combating the others. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 19&version=KJV
 

Susanna

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Traitors to the left of me sell outs to the right here I am stuck in the middle with you. If Biden (or any other Democrat) wins the 2024 election, then America will continue down the path to destruction. If Trump wins the 2024 election, America will still remain on the path to destruction, because not enough people will have his back and the left will revolt and stir up more civil unrest and I would not be surprised if we see another pandemic. The regime is determined to destroy America at all costs and only God can save America now.
We need a president who unites. Unfortunately such a president is not on election.
 

blueluna5

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It is the first time in my life I can remember both Candidates having a greater unfavorable rating than favorable. It seems the majority of Americans do not want either for President, right? What to make of this? It does not say much for our Political Parties in my opinion.

(excerpt)

Neither candidate is viewed as more popular than unpopular, recent polling has consistently shown, with more people disapproving of both than approving. Analysts have said that both will struggle to entice voters to turn out for the election due to their disenchantment with the choice of candidates.

The latest ABC/Ipsos poll found that 36 percent thought Trump was trusted to do a better job as president to 33 percent who thought Joe Biden would—but 30 percent thought neither would.

(here)

Donald Trump Stung as New Poll Shows How Unpopular He Is

17 hours ago · Donald Trump Stung as New Poll Shows How Unpopular He Is. ... The latest ABC/Ipsos poll found that 36 percent thought Trump was trusted to do a better job as presid

I wonder if this election will have an Historic low turn out of voters?
Um... Trumps not a popular candidate? 🙄 tell that to CNN who talks about him every second.

Even the fact that they keep polling about him shows he's on their minds and everyones. 🤣

"Historically low turnout" that's funny bc I predict it will need Historically high turnout like the 81 million, trillion votes Biden got (allegedly of course & mostly in the middle of the night). And now....woah even higher numbers are needed with this administration disaster that's waking up even normies. So maybe there is a chance of Trump beating the cheating again after all (allegedly of course).
 

Nehemiah6

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It is the first time in my life I can remember both Candidates having a greater unfavorable rating than favorable.
Where are you getting this FAKE NEWS from?
Voters Doubt Biden’s Leadership and Favor Trump, Times/Siena Poll Finds
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/02/us/politics/biden-trump-times-siena-poll.html
"If the 2024 presidential election were held today, who would you vote for if the candidates were Joe Biden and Donald Trump?"
48% would vote for Trump and 43% for Biden. 10% did not know or refused.

At the same time, polls never present the real situation, and the numbers are too limited to be representative of the total population.

The truth is that a huge number of people have recognized Joe Biden's disastrous regime for what it is. Blacks and Hispanics are very unhappy about how the illegal migrant invaders have been handed everything on a silver platter while they can't even afford hamburgers. And no one really knows what has been the impact of Laken Riley's murder on the ordinary citizens. Or the flooding of the country with 15 million foreigners, many of whom are actually here to attack American citizens. The rejection of the lying MSM is another indicator that people are fed up with the daily garbage coming from the networks. These networks are having to lay off staff since their revenues are drying up.

One thing is certain, The RINOs have done absolutely nothing to ensure that the next election is free and fair. And the Communists (not Democrats) have already planned to either (a) steal the election or (b) prevent Trump from being certified, or (c) stop him from even being a candidate.
 

iamsoandso

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Where are you getting this FAKE NEWS from?
Voters Doubt Biden’s Leadership and Favor Trump, Times/Siena Poll Finds
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/02/us/politics/biden-trump-times-siena-poll.html
"If the 2024 presidential election were held today, who would you vote for if the candidates were Joe Biden and Donald Trump?"
48% would vote for Trump and 43% for Biden. 10% did not know or refused.

At the same time, polls never present the real situation, and the numbers are too limited to be representative of the total population.

The truth is that a huge number of people have recognized Joe Biden's disastrous regime for what it is. Blacks and Hispanics are very unhappy about how the illegal migrant invaders have been handed everything on a silver platter while they can't even afford hamburgers. And no one really knows what has been the impact of Laken Riley's murder on the ordinary citizens. Or the flooding of the country with 15 million foreigners, many of whom are actually here to attack American citizens. The rejection of the lying MSM is another indicator that people are fed up with the daily garbage coming from the networks. These networks are having to lay off staff since their revenues are drying up.

One thing is certain, The RINOs have done absolutely nothing to ensure that the next election is free and fair. And the Communists (not Democrats) have already planned to either (a) steal the election or (b) prevent Trump from being certified, or (c) stop him from even being a candidate.

yep in the polls in 2016 Clinton was gonna win by a landslide so the polls don't really mean anything like you said... on the other hand the blacks and Latinos(your using Hispanic incorrectly) still need to cross the hurdle of being able to vote in numbers in places like Texas. I was registered to vote but didn't vote for Bush Jr.,Gore,Obama,Clinton,Trump or Biden because family and friends who tried to were coming home with horror stories of their attempts to vote (Polk county in the article is the county next to where I live) https://www.texastribune.org/2017/05/02/texas-failures-led-voter-id-problems-2016-election/
 

maxwel

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We need a president who unites. Unfortunately such a president is not on election.
Moving into the future, there will never be a president who unites us in some unifying sense of national purpose that you are probably imagining.

That ship has sailed.

Our culture has been ripped apart and intentionally polarized into extraordinarily antithetical and immovable philosophical camps - there is no longer any shared sense of national purpose, national values, or even personal values. We can't even agree that objective reality exists, or that a woman has a uterus.

It is possible that one side will eventually gain a substantial majority, either through reason or through tyranny.
But that isn't unification.... that is just victory, like one side winning a war.

A concept like "unification" necessitates the existence of some kind of thing to unify around... and we currently have no such thing.

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I think Trump is a lot more popular than that communist guy
 

Susanna

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Moving into the future, there will never be a president who unites us in some unifying sense of national purpose that you are probably imagining.

That ship has sailed.

Our culture has been ripped apart and intentionally polarized into extraordinarily antithetical and immovable philosophical camps - there is no longer any shared sense of national purpose, national values, or even personal values. We can't even agree that objective reality exists, or that a woman has a uterus.

It is possible that one side will eventually gain a substantial majority, either through reason or through tyranny.
But that isn't unification.... that is just victory, like one side winning a war.

A concept like "unification" necessitates the existence of some kind of thing to unify around... and we currently have no such thing.

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Maybe that is the way of mankind. Drifting so far apart from each other that only a meltdown between the two sides can unite, but only for a moment, before the two sides yet again are drifting apart.
 

maxwel

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Maybe that is the way of mankind. Drifting so far apart from each other that only a meltdown between the two sides can unite, but only for a moment, before the two sides yet again are drifting apart.
Well, sin, with it's natural animosities and tendencies to separate, seems to historically ruin all good things at some point.

For unification to occur, there simply MUST first exist some rubric of commonality, a unifying factor, around which to unite.
There is currently no such unifying factor.
Without a unifying factor around which to unite, then unification would simply not be possible.

Once our culture did share common vision, and common values.
Once.

Historically it is usually some kind of terrible tragedy that causes a realignment.


I hope we aren't headed for that, and I pray we don't have to go through that.
Perhaps God will be merciful.


Nice chatting with you Susanna. God Bless.


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gb9

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Moving into the future, there will never be a president who unites us in some unifying sense of national purpose that you are probably imagining.

That ship has sailed.

Our culture has been ripped apart and intentionally polarized into extraordinarily antithetical and immovable philosophical camps - there is no longer any shared sense of national purpose, national values, or even personal values. We can't even agree that objective reality exists, or that a woman has a uterus.

It is possible that one side will eventually gain a substantial majority, either through reason or through tyranny.
But that isn't unification.... that is just victory, like one side winning a war.

A concept like "unification" necessitates the existence of some kind of thing to unify around... and we currently have no such thing.

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this follows the path of the further we get away from God, the more division comes.

as the pastor at my church said about year ago " we are no longer a Christian nation, and we need to start accepting that as a reality."