Under a new covenant

These Law were put in the side of the ARK of the covenant but not INSIDE,

Hevrews 9:5
...Inside the ark were the gold jar of manna, Aaron’s staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant.

Is this not speaking of the 10 commandments?

yes or course, the stone tablets written by GOD containing the 10 Commandments

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What parts of the law you believe apply still? We know from Paul's writings and Acts 15 that circumcision was done away with and if you are uncircumcised you are to remain so, why would he say that if all of the torah was applicable?

Hello Thunder,

Your questions are quite legitimate and I understand why as many say different things. There are too many doctrines but you know there can only be one, there is one GOD and one gospel, the only message or Gospel that matters is the Gospel of Jesus Christ, I urge you to follow no other than our Messiah the son of GOD himself.

Jesus fulfilled the law ( by obeying all of it, perfectly ) and the prophets ( who wrote about him in the prophecies of the O.T.)
The 10 commandments ( were given by GOD) for any who do his will, Jews and gentiles alike, these were written by the hand of GOD and put inside the ARK OF THE COVENANT. the rest called the law of MOSES are mostly for Israel they contain many things and many no longer apply today as for example the ceremonies for the Levites, sacrifices etc...

These Law were put in the side of the ARK of the covenant but not INSIDE, hence the important distinction. Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law; ( see Matthew 5:17) but to fulfill. He did so perfectly, he was teaching the law ( commandments) and magnified it and explained in details how to follow it from the heart with love not in the hypocrite fashions of the pharisees. Jesus never abolished the law on the contrary. The 10 commandments are still valid today, they will never pass away! we better get used to it. this is why he came, how are we to know sin if we do not follow simple commandments.
Many think we are under a new covenant but it is untrue, the new covenant says"" I will give my law in their bowels, and I will write it in their heart: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. "" you need to read Jer 30 and 31 for full context, the new covenant will be in effect in the end times after the second advent of Christ and the restoration of Israel and Judah. so many people refuse to obey the commandments how then can we say we are under a new covenant that the lord would write in out minds forever, if we refuse to obey?

Jer 31:31 Behold the days shall come, saith the Lord, and I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Juda:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers, in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, the covenant which they made void, and I had dominion over them, saith the Lord.
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel, after those days, saith the Lord: I will give my law in their bowels, and I will write it in their heart: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying: Know the Lord: for all shall know me from the least of them even to the greatest, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jer 31:35 Thus saith the Lord, who giveth the sun for the light of the day, the order of the moon and of the stars, for the light of the night: who stirreth up the sea, and the waves thereof roar, the Lord of hosts is his name.
Jer 31:36 If these ordinances shall fail before me, saith the Lord: then also the seed of Israel shall fail, so as not to be a nation before me for ever.
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the Lord: If the heavens above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I also will cast away all the seed of Israel, for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

Jesus on his glorious return will certainly continue to keep the law as should we. the LORD wants us to be perfect, Holy as he is PERFECT and HOLY. Christ is the way, the only way to eternal life! Do not let anyone fool you. You are right it is simple and not complicated, it is the doctrines of men that hide and corrupt the truth.

Half or more of the people here will disagree but I have said the truth according to the words of Jesus and the prophets. I can add all the verses if you need but did not do so here for lack of space.

Simplicity and truth in Christ, Peace be upon you.

"To fulfill the law" means "to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be" (NAS Greek Lexicon: pleroo). So after Jesus said that he came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets, he then proceeded to fulfill it six times throughout the rest on chapter by teaching how to correctly obey it. According to Galatians 5:14, anyone who has ever loved their neighbor has fulfilled the entire law, so fulfilling the law does not require perfect obedience to it, but rather it refers to something that countless people have done. Furthermore, the phrase "Law and the Prophets" straightforwardly refers to everything in the Law and the Prophets, not to just the Ten Commandments. All of God's commandments have the same moral authority regardless of whether God spoke them, wrote them down, or commanded Moses to write them down and regardless of where they are placed. All of God's righteous laws are eternal (Psalms 119:160), not just ten of them. In Jeremiah 31:33, it used the Hebrew word "Torah", which refers to the Mosaic Law, not just ten of its commandments.

hi, thanks for the reply 😊

May i ask you what you think of my understanding



For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

WHen I read this, I see when you are loving then the law is fulfilled. But when you are not loving then the law is not fulfilled

so fulfilling the law is only temporary and has not been fulfilled 😊


When you are loving, in that moment the law is fulfilled, and so love is above a law.

But obviously when your not loving then the law is above unloving.

We all know that an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is the secret of Satan.If God's truth transcends this criterion,Then God can only educate the unjust.So the justice that human society thinks is illusory.

We fulfill the law every time that we correctly do what it commands. Everything that it commands is in regard to how to how to love our neighbor and/or how to love God, so I agree that we are fulfilling the law when we are correctly loving in obedience to it and we are not fulfilling it when we are not, but I don't see how that leads to you saying fulfilling the law is only temporary and has not been fulfilled. The purpose of God's word is to teach us to love, so love is not above or below it.

These are the two new commandments of the news testament.

We see measure for measure justice taught throughout the Bible, so an eye for an eye is still a good guideline for judges to help ensure fair sentencing that does not escalate out of proportion to the offense, but it was not intended to be used to justifying taking revenge into our own hands in personal situations, but rather in those situations we are instructed not to rely in kind (Proverbs 20:22, 24:29).

No. Those were still in the old law.

It is helpful for us to compare between the old commandment and the new. The reference to a “new” commandment by implication implies that there was an “old” commandment. So what is the “old” commandment?

The “old” commandment is found in Matthew, chapter 22:34-36, “Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’”

Now, you’ll note that. Indeed, a lawyer, under the law could only ask Him a question about the law. He couldn’t ask Him about the new commandment; he was unaware of the new commandment. So the context of this question and the answer, both have to do with the law. What is the greatest commandment?

Matthew 22:37-40 “Jesus replied: ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.’” (Inserted-Matthew 22:37-40)

His answer, summarized the teachings of the Law and the Prophets and in this, His answer is solidly to be found in the Law. This is the very thing that is to be replaced. But today most people think if you keep the 10 commandments and if you love your neighbor as yourself then you have done everything that God could have required. Now if you look at these two commandments you will immediately observe that they are foundationally different. Why? Because the standard is different.

In the first case the “new” commandment has this as the standard: “…as I have loved you, so you should love one another.” The “old” commandment has this: “With all of your capacity to love so you should love God and so you should love one another.” Well you will notice that the standard of the “old” commandment is, of course, appropriate for the Law because the Law can only require you to do as much as it is possible for you to do. Objectively and theoretically it is possible to keep the Law because it does not require any more than all that you are capable of doing. It doesn’t say, “All that you feel like doing,” nor does it say, “All that you want to do.” It says, “All that you are capable of doing.” So when the Law says, “Love the Lord your God with all of your heart...” all of your heart means all of the capacity that lies within you to do. All, in fact, means all. It doesn’t say, “All that you want to do, all that you feel like doing, all that on certain occasions you may be inclined to do.” No, it requires all. So in that sense, the Law and the standard of the Law is not haphazard but it does point out that it is all that is humanly possible. Furthermore, the Law was designed to keep the Jews alive. God could not ask a man to give up his own life under the Law. There was no promise of a new life in the Law. To ask a man to give up his life would be to make the Law unrighteous. A man cannot give up his own life and simultaneously keep his life.

The standard is appropriate for the Law because if the Law asks of anyone more than all then by the existence of the Law you’ve been made lawless. In other words: if it is all plus 10% then the Law makes you lawless because it has exceeded your capacity to respond. But the Law begins and ends with what you can do. And it has a lesser standard for loving your neighbor. Its objective standard regarding loving God is all that you are capable of doing. Its lesser standard in regards to loving your neighbor is, “…as you love yourself.” The presumption is that you love yourself pretty thoroughly. Now what if you didn’t love yourself? The Law simply requires you to love your neighbor in the same fashion, to the same extent.

What is the standard of the new and how is that different? The standard of the new is: “…as I have loved you.” Who is the “I” that is the measurement of this standard? The “I”, of course, is Christ, the one speaking. He is also the Living God. So the standard is: as Jesus has loved us so we are to love one another. Now what if you don’t love yourself? Well that is an irrelevant standard. He didn’t say, “as you love your neighbor, so you should love one another…” or “as I have occasionally loved you so you must love each other.” “As I have loved you” means “I, as God, have loved you perfectly; therefore I require you to love as God loves.” This is a fascinating standard because it’s the same standard for God as it is for man. The standard of love is the same for God as it is for man. That standard of the new commandment makes God and man equal on the matter of love. That’s an incredible observation. On the matter of love, God and man are equal.

Now don’t take my observation for that. Look at this: this is from Matthew5:48, Jesus is speaking. Now this verse of Scripture is very troubling. Matthew 5:48 says, “Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” What we’ve done is we’ve read that verse out of its context and we have inferred meanings to it that it does not mean. For example we’ve inferred that it means “be perfect in power” and so people come up with thoughts like, “if you’re not healed it’s your fault; you don’t have enough faith, you do not exercise enough power.” So if things go badly it’s your fault. God has given you all power, God has given you all faith, and so on, and if you do these things less than perfectly then it is your fault. Well that’s garbage because God would not require us to be perfect in power, whatever power we have is His power given to us, and no one is made "all powerful". Therefore we could only operate in whatever measures of power He has given us. This Scripture is not about being perfect in power; it’s about being perfect in love.

Note the context: jump back to verse 43 “‘You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies…” (so the context is love) “..and pray for those who persecute you…” Now why should you do that and how is this different? You must do that so that you can be sons of your Father in heaven, "..that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.” It means that just as natural children resemble their natural parents and the nature of natural children is like the nature of their natural parents, so the nature of the children of God is like the God Who is perfect in love. So it’s not surprising to us that the same standard would apply to God as would apply to us… in the matter of love. So that you will be as sons of your Father in heaven.

And then He gives us some examples of how he loves His enemies and does good for those who persecute Him. “He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous…”. Then He contrasts and He says, “If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even the pagans do that?” In short, to be like your Father in heaven it means that you do not simply love your enemies as you love yourselves or you love your neighbor as yourself; it is that you would love your enemy by preferring them over your own life and in that sense, and within that context it says, “Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

The “old” commandment, under the Law, basically required you to love the extent of your capacity to love… love God as much as you are able and to love your neighbor as you are inclined to love yourself. That’s the “old” commandment. The “new” commandment says, “…as I have loved you.” And it establishes Christ as the standard for love. Christ being the Living God, the standard is the same for God as the standard is for man. Now the reason why the standard is the same is because, according to 2 Peter 1:4, the intent of God is that we be made to be partakers of the divine nature…"

“Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.” and "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His nature..."

The divine nature, the nature of God, is to love and to love perfectly; to love by preferring the life of another over your own life, to give up your life to God so that God would live through you. Now what’s left unanswered for us is: why? And furthermore, how does this prepare us to overcome the evil one?

Revelation 12:11 “They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death.”) In this respect we are meant to be exactly as God—perfect in love—the same standard that applies to God applies to us and this is the measure that displays the reality that we are partakers of the divine nature.

By this it is abundantly clear that the “new” covenant is not simply the “old” covenant rehashed. It has the elements of a totally different standard, the same standard for God and man.

God’s law is not His instructions for how to be under the rule of Satan, but just the opposite.

I should have used the verse instead for clarity.
Deu 31:24 Therefore after Moses had wrote the words of this law in a volume, and finished it:
Deu 31:25 He commanded the Levites, who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying:
Deu 31:26 Take this book, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God: that it may be there for a testimony against thee.

Which translation are you using?

What does it mean to be under a new covenant.

Does it mean Jesus came to fulfill the law in every believer. or should it mean, in Jesus there is no law but love.

I see Gods law as knowing how to give correct Judgement for any situation, but how can I judge correctly if I don't know it.

As even love must be Judged fairly.

I think there must be something, more than the meaning of Jesus sayin I have come to a abolish the law, but when he said I have come to fulfill it. What did he mean by I have come to abolish it.

Did he mean something else, as according to the raptured in the head people, Jesus will come back to rule with a rod of iron, according to the once saved always saved believers, I've also heard them preach Jesus will come back to rule with a rod of iron.

But yet ruling with a rod of iron would be laying down the law.

I mean am I going left or right, up or down. Backwards or reverse.

It should not be this complicated should it.

The return of the lord is described as the day of the lord. Should not everyone have a day of the lord.

Should not a day of the lord be like a thousand years.

Your either under Jewish covenant a gentile covenant or a Hebrew covenant.