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You understand Doug is saying the two witnesses are raised from the dead and then the rest of the dead in Israel in revelation 11:18 is raised 42 months later?

So this isn’t in the Bible ( it’s one of several ) and isn’t going to be fulfilled ?

“Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,….. Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil. I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck. And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head. Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom

( the woman in revelation 12 whom is gloriously attired and dressed )


( becomes the whore in revelation 17 )

No, I did not say the rest of the dead in Israel are raised 42 months later. I did not say anything about specifically Israel, nor all of the dead. Some of the dead will not be raised until the great white throne judgment after the thousand years are over.

Well,your saying Jesus does not come when the dead are raised.

This is when the dead are raised.

Revelation 11
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

Billions of people are going to die because of the New Age Christ, antichrist, which the Bible says by peace he shall destroy many which he will believe he is doing the will of nature the God of forces.

The new age movement is why the world rebels against God which they will follow Lucifer believing he is a god, and an alien, that will help mankind to have peace, advance, and evolve, which they talk about the return of the gods which are the fallen angels but they believe they are aliens.

They do not believe Lucifer is a fallen angel because they do not believe in a God.

They interpret the Bible, and religions, according to the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and Jesus evolved to be an ascended master, and there is no personal God, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher and above Jesus.

Their conscious is seared with a hot iron for they will reduce the population by terrible means, and go against all people who oppose them.

The time will come people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but according to the new age movement.

Some people will depart from the faith and follow their interpretation of the Bible(1 Timothy 4:1-5; 2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The new age movement does not want to preach it loudly, but remain kind of subtle for they would not have that much weight to convince people, but they waiting on the New Age Christ to push the agenda of the new age movement loudly for he will have more weight, and can convince the people easier.

The New Age Christ will negotiate peace in the Middle East resulting in a peace treaty which will stop the fighting between Israel and the Arabs, which will stop the fighting in the world between the nations that chose sides.

But it is all a scare tactic to get the people of the world on board for a one world government, and to set the stage for the New Age Christ.

Which United Nations supports new age organizations and is with them as well as Science.

Which Science says humans are not from the earth, and the world needs to prepare for an alien encounter.

The New Age Christ will be considered a great man of peace, and will speak like no other person they heard speak understanding dark sentences, and will become the biggest player on the world scene, and he will push the agenda of the new age movement which he will thin k to change times and laws.

There will be a one world government, and the world will be split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section who will support the New Age Christ.

The 6 trumpets are disasters that happen on earth but the world does not turn to God, and repent of their sins, but they keep on going on with their plan to try to work for peace by their own power.

After the 6th trumpet the world does not repent of their sins, and does not turn to God, so He gives them the New Age Christ to rule over the which for three and one half years he has power over all nations, kindreds, and tongues.

The Bible says 3 horns, sections, are plucked up by the roots which they have no power, or growth anymore.

The 6th trumpet is Islam against the world which the Arab nations are devastated with nuclear weapons for they rebel against the world for they are not allowing them to preach their religion for nothing can be taught except the new age movement.

They did not know the extent of what the one world government entailed but found out they stopped the preaching of anything contrary to the new age movement which they interpret Islam according to their format which they do not believe in a personal God.

Have you got the woman fleeing into the wilderness confused with the Babylonian whore???

He comes to clouds at the Rapture, not to Earth. His Second Coming to Earth happens seven years later.

He comes to clouds at the Rapture, not to Earth. His Second Coming to Earth happens seven years later.

That is correct. At the Resurrection/Rapture Christ comes "in the air", and both the saints who have passed on will receive glorious, incorruptible, resurrected bodies, and the saints who are alive at that time will be perfected, and also receive incorruptible, glorious, resurrected bodies. This event takes place at least seven years BEFORE the Second Coming of Christ, since all these saints must be present at the Marriage of the Lamb.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery [something that was hidden in the past but is now revealed]; We shall not all sleep [die], but we shall all be changed [transformed and perfected] , 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: [which has nothing to do with the trumpet judgments] for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised [resurrected] incorruptible, and we [the living] shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. (1 Cor 15:51-54)

Something to note is that the way Paul expresses this, using "we" with "shall be changed" indicates that he expected the Rapture at any time. And his epistles to the churches also indicate that those Christians were expecting the Rapture. That is why it is called an "imminent" event. It could happen art any time, even today. And all these miraculous things will happen in a nanosecond ("the twinkling of an eye").

Yes, Israel has undergone the sin-repent-forgiven-sin... wash rinse repeat cycle many times.


No, I do not believe that Israel magically transforms into the Babylonian whore.

This is speaking of two men. This is not a mass rapture.

So what God talking about in tbat prophecy when he says they did ? Let me highlight it again please consider why I’m saying what I’m saying brother

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“Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.

…I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk. I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck. And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head. Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom. And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:2, 8-14‬ ‭

thats the beautiful woman who gives birth to the messiah in chaoter 12 this is what he’s saying about Jerusalem in the same prophecy

But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was. And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.

(Her beauty God adorned her with has chia fed ) Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:15-17‬ ‭KJV‬

After the woman is pursued into the wilderness by the dragon ….we see this later 0n a woman having changed her garments and she’s holding in her hand a cup of fornication and the wrath of God

“So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms. How weak is thine heart, saith the Lord GOD, seeing thou doest all these things, the work of an imperious whorish woman; but as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband! They give gifts to all whores: but thou givest thy gifts to all thy lovers, and hirest them, that they may come unto thee on every side for thy whoredom. And the contrary is in thee from other women in thy whoredoms, whereas none followeth thee to commit whoredoms: and in that thou givest a reward, and no reward is given unto thee, therefore thou art contrary. Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the LORD: Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them; behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:25, 30, 32-37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you don’t see how they began as chosen and beautiful adorned by God renowned for her beauty ? The. She continually connotes whoredoms and abominations against God worshipping every god but him for generations and generations building altars on every hill in Jerusalem sacrificing thier children to them painting images of them in the walls inside Gods temple ect

you don’t see how they began as beautiful. But they made themselves ugly and they were chosen in love but returned live with wha and betrayals and then what he said he would do because of all that ? You don’t think when it says this is happening until gods words are fulfilled , it has anything to do wo to what he said ? About Jerusalems lovers destroying her burning her with fire leaving her naked ect ? You don’t think that’s related brother ?😂

“And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you dont think that has anything to do with this being fulfilled upon Jerusalem ?

“behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness.

And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; ( adultery is a death sentance in the law ) and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy. And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee naked and bare.

They shall also bring up a company against thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their swords. And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and execute judgments upon thee in the sight of many women: and I will cause thee to cease from playing the harlot, and thou also shalt give no hire any more.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:37-41‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Are we just at a point where you won’t say you see it too ? Or do you see it ?

1-After the tribulation
2-Son of man comes in the clouds
3-Elect is gathered to him


Easy as ABC

Shur am. Sure did. We are now awaiting the 2nd Coming.

Easy as 123. Yes. That is the Second Coming. He brings Church Bride down with Him and gathers all saints, Trib Saints included. He comes down to rule on Earth for 1000 years. No Rapture back up to Heaven. Wedding is a done deal at this point.