TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!

Your job is to love others as Christ has loved you? Not so sure you are doing your job.
But feel free to actually show me the connection of Romans 11 to what comes before it in the previous 10 chapters. And since you were so kind to wait for my answer earlier, I'm glad to wait on you to answer as well.

That's funny. In other words," I don't care if the truth hits me between the eyes, I ain't changing my mind!"
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Irenaeus
Irenaeus (A.D. 180), a student of Polycarp (who was a disciple of the apostle John), wrote that the apocalyptic vision “was seen not very long ago, almost in our own generation, at the close of the reign of Domitian” (Against Heresies 30). The testimony of Irenaeus, not far removed from the apostolic age, is first rate. He places the book near the end of Domitian’s reign, and that ruler died in A.D. 96. Irenaeus seems to be unaware of any other view for the date of the book of Revelation.
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And to top it off, Polycarp and Irenaeus and all of their contemporaries had every chance to say, " John was RIGHT! The whole book of revelation was fulfilled just a few short years ago, the eye witnesses and history scholars have written many,many books on this once in a life time great showing from our God !!!! We have many more things to write to prove to the world that it truly did happen!"

It would be a doctrine of the Church today if It did happen. It would be a truth taught on the scale of the Gospel.

Paul was teaching the rapture to gentile churches 2000 miles away from Jerusalem. John missed the rapture. And apparently other saved new testament writers.

It's getting to be quite the ssttttrrreeeetttcccchhh for me.

Since when is coddling and peddling heresies meritorious and deserving of love and honor?

I understand. It's easier to believe he was talking about 2,000 years later. That's not a stretch. I wonder what they will be saying in the year 4,000...any day now.

Hmmmm. So if you met someone from the Islamic faith, would that be your attitude?
You are very quick to exonerate your sin and accuse others. A wonderful portrait of Jesus.

that's providing he has known he has been, or hes had a chance to change his mind in certain ideas.

Just sayin

And @cv5 that's also providing not understanding the rapture is a heresy

pride is not a sin in the eyes of the prideful.

Pointless to point it out buddy.

They just get more prideful.

But if you have great tolerance In pointing it out and moving on to the next subject then by all means.

I'm getting better with that here 😂

But anyhow talking about islamists i would say I heard your ancestors saved Mary and Jesus from king herod.

Then I would ask them what Jesus means to them 😂

Assuming you are referring to the Thessalonians in 2Thessalonians2, Paul told them that the day of the Lord would not start until the act of 2Thessalonains2:4 takes place. And therefore the Thessalonians should not to be concerned by rumors that the great tribulation had begun and that they had missed the rapture.

My explanation is to us today because the rapture/resurrection has not happen yet, but will happen soon according to the parable of the fig tree generation.

2Thessalonians2:4 when it happens is an act by the little horn person, who has become the Antichrist. The transgression of desolation act is time of the end.

The first century is long gone, Cameron. By 20/20 hindsight, the rapture/resurrection event is still to take place. We are living in that day.

My attitude would be reflected in my actions. Which would be to inform them that their religion does not have a Savior or salvation. In other words informing them of God's ultimate work of love which is the epitome of loving your neighbor.

As for dealing with heretics.......the image of Jesus with a whip of cords comes to mind. As does His seven letters to seven churches in Revelation. How is that for a wonderful portrait of Jesus?

And you thought that providing safe harbor and succor to empty religions and heretics was love?

Cameron's trash can is filled to overflowing with page after page of passages that don't fit his opinions and bogus continuation theology.

2nd Thessalonians 2 is long gone and is way at the bottom of the pile.

Declaring that the rapture is a heresy........is a heresy.

Psalms 58:3-4
The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear.

Does this ring a bell?

Rom 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

I guess you like taking away from what i said 😊

nope his continuous theology is based on covenants following on and future events happening in the past.

And him trying to piece the rapture all together and doing a study and expressing his views and being tolerant of your remarks

Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Yes, we know that you are new around here. Because us old-timers know better by now.
What is going down in thread alone debunks your assertion.

same reason we can’t see this guy or Jesus

“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭23:43‬ ‭

“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.


Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We can’t see heaven but we never could but he can see us

“The LORD is in his holy temple, The LORD's throne is in heaven: His eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭11:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's:

But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

flesh can’t see spirit