The Error of KJV-Onlyism

This is obviously not the same thing. These words are not even spaced apart by a specific number repeatedly (See the pictorial example below with Genesis 1:1).

There is also NO spiritual meaning or connection attached here, either.
1611 is attached to man shall not live by bread alone.
1611 is attached to the first time the word LORD is all uppercase to show the difference of God’s special name.
Acts 16:11 involves the apostles headed to the actual direction of where they created the King James Bible. A mountain along the way in their journey exactly 1,611 feet in height. You obviously have not looked into Biblical Numerics involving the KJB to see the difference. Coincidences? There are multiple forms of them.

Watch Brandon Peterson’s videos that I posted.

Also, consider the differences of these:

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While Brandon Peterson explains it better in the video above, here is my crude transcription:

Brandon Peterson’s Number 7 Video on the King James Bible:

John 10:37


John 10:38


Note: These counts are from the accurate software KJB search program called Pure King James Bible Search (of which you can check out here). Other programs or searches online are not as precise and Brandon goes into explaining why in his video.

Jesus says, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.”(Revelation 22:13).

It is agreed upon by many Jews and Christians that the number 7 is God’s perfect number.

1. Jesus is mentioned 77% of the way through the Bible (by word count).
2. In the Genealogy of Christ in Luke 3:23-38 counting from God to our Messiah, Jesus is the 77th from God.
3. The word “Jesus” is the 7th word of the New Testament (Matthew 1:1). Jesus is the Alpha or the first.
4. Revelation 22:21 (the last verse of the Bible), the word “Jesus” is the 7th word from the end. Meaning, that if you count backward starting from the end in the last verse, Jesus is the 7th word from the end of Revelation. Jesus is the Omega or the last.
5. Jesus or Jesus’ = 980 mentions (excluding anti-mentions - when the Bible mentions the name Jesus but it is not referring to Jesus Christ). (70 x 7) + (70 x 7) = 980. This aligns with Matthew 18:22 where Jesus tells Peter to forgive 70 x 7 times. The first 70 x 7 is perfectly found in the odd books of the New Testament. The second 70 x 7 is perfectly found in the even books of the New Testament. This is amazing because there are way more words in the odd books than in the even books.
6. The word “heaven” is the 7th word in the first verse of the Bible (Genesis 1:1). Looking at the 7th word from the end of the last verse of the Bible (Which is Revelation 22:21) and is the name “Jesus.” So if you were to take the word “heaven” and “Jesus” (including Joshua - which means Jesus) and you add these words together, you get 1,554 (Which is 777 + 777). Note: When Jesus and Heaven are mentioned in the same verse there are 49 mentions (which is 7 x 7). So again, Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, or the first and the last.
7. The word “Amen” (the last word in the KJB) (Revelation) shows up 77 times (capitalized) in all of the King James Bible. The last word in the book of Genesis is “Egypt” which shows up 77 times in the book of Genesis.
8. The first word in the Bible is “In” in Genesis 1:1, and the last word is “Amen.” If you were to add the words “In” and “Amen” together you get 777 mentions in the book of Genesis, and the book of Revelation (Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last).
9. If you look up “God” (who appears in the first verse of the Bible), and “Jesus” (who appears in the last verse of the Bible) you get a total of 343 mentions in the book of Genesis and the book of Revelation (Which is 7 x 7 x 7). The Alpha and the Omega.
10. Genesis 1 describes God creating everything in 6 literal 24-hour days. If you take the first word “In” in Genesis chapter 1, and the last word “day” in Genesis chapter 1, they are mentioned 24 times in this chapter (Which is 24 hours in a day).
11. If you were to count the words “In” and “day” in the whole Bible you would get the total mentions of 14406. The last two numbers from 14406 is 06 which is the number of days God created everything (Which is 6 days). 144 out of 14406 is how many hours are in 6 days. Meaning, there are 144 hours in 6 days. (14406 = 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 6). In other words, God (7777) creates everything in 6 days.
12. The first and last verses of the Bible each have 17 vowels, 27 consonants, and 44 letters. 17 and 27 are tied to the flood of Noah. In Genesis 7:11 it says the flood began on the 17th, and on the 27th the flood waters had abated in Genesis 8:14. Luke 17:27 talks about the flood and ties it in a few verses down with the return of the Son of Man (Luke 17:30), which is separated by 44 words with verses 28-29. (Note: Luke 17:27 is my addition to the video).
13. Revelation 22 has 21 verses in the chapter (Which is 7 + 7 + 7). Revelation 22 is the 49th chapter to contain 21 verses (so it’s the 7 x 7 chapter). In the Greek alphabet, the letters have numeric values assigned to them. Jesus Christ's number in Greek is 888. Jesus Christ’s number in Hebrew ordinal =115. In Greek ordinal Jesus Christ = 205. Jesus Christ's number in Hebrew standard = 754. Jesus Christ's number in "Greek standard" = 2,368. Revelation 22 has 2240 letters. Revelation 22 has 805 vowels (which is 7 x 115) (Hebrew ordinal name of Jesus is 115; So it’s Jesus name in Hebrew x 7). Revelation 22 has 1435 consonants (which is 7 x 205) (Greek ordinal name of Jesus is 205; So it’s Jesus' name in Greek x 7). Looking at the first seven verses of Revelation 22, it has 754 letters (Which is the Hebrew standard name of Jesus Christ).
14. In the New Testament: Jesus = 980 (excluding anti-mentions) + Christ (excluding anti-mentions, but including the words “Christian” meaning Christ follower) = 574. So, 980 (Jesus) + 574 (Christ) = 1554, which is 777 + 777.
15. John 1:17, the Law came by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. So if we were to look at the words “Moses” + “Jesus” + “Christ” we get a total of 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 mentions.
16. In Genesis 1, when God is directly speaking, He speaks 7 x 7 x 7 words (i.e., 343 words).
17. The seventh letter in the Hebrew alphabet is Z. (“Zayin” - sounds like Z). So the last letter for us is the 7th letter for Hebrew. If you count all words that start with A and Z (Alpha and Omega) in Genesis and Revelation you get 7723 words. It is the 980th Prime Number. Jesus shows up 980 times (See #5). If you look at all words that contain the letters A and Z, it is 7777.
18. All times that the word “LORD” appears it is referring to Jehovah the holy name of God. “Lord” refers to Adonai or master. In 1611, the original King James Bible said only, "Lord" lower lowercase in Matthew 22:44. But the King James Bible 1629 updated it to the LORD. The first time the word LORD (all capitalized) shows up, it is the 777th word of the chapter. Matthew 22:14 is also the 7th time it is quoting “LORD” from the Old Testament. (1) Matthew 3:3 (2) Matthew 4:7 (3) Matthew 4:10 (4) Matthew 5:33 (5) Matthew 21:9 (6) Matthew 22:37 (7) Matthew 22:44.
19. All uppercase names of God in the Bible, and all mentions of Jesus. All uppercase names of God = 6790 (Which is 970 x 7). Jesus' name appears 980 times and 10 of those are possessive mentions (with the apostrophe). So the singular mention of Jesus is 970. If you were to add the uppercase names of Jesus like KING OF KINGS, etc., and BRANCH, and you include the 980 count (adding it to the 6790 number), you get a total of 7777 mentions.
20. Counting the number of words in the first and last chapter of the Old Testament (Genesis and Malachi), you get 980 words. 980 is how many times Jesus' name appears.
21. 1 John 5:7 is one of the most attacked verses in the Bible by scholars. But if you were to count the words “The Father” + “The Word” + “Holy Ghost”, you get a total of 777 mentions (In fact, there are many patterns of the Godhead associated with the number 7).
22. If you were to look at all occurrences of Father + Son (capitalized) in the King James Bible when they are talking about God and Jesus (Note: Example, Luke 16:24 is referring to Father Abraham and not God the Father). There are 70 x 7 mentions (490 mentions). If you were to look at the gospels involving "Father + Son”, you then get a total of 7 x 7 x 7 mentions. In the first 7 epistles of “Father + Son”, you get a total of 7 x 7 mentions. In the last 14 epistles, there are 77 mentions of “Father + Son.” In the book of Revelation, there are 7 mentions of “Father + Son.” If you look at the total verses involving “Father + Son”, in the first 12 books you get 7 x 7 x 7. First seven, post gospels = 7 x 7, 7th epistle = 7, Pauline epistles = 70, Revelation = 70.
23. If you were to look at “God + Jesus + Holy Spirit" in the New Testament you get a total of 777 x 3 mentions (2331). If you were to look at the words “God + Jesus + His Spirit” in the entire Bible, you get 777 x 7 mentions (5439).
24. God + Father in the gospels you get 491 mentions. But there is one time where they are conjoined that says “God the Father”, which is in John 6:27. So if you were to take this as being conjoined, it is 490 which is 70 x 7 mentions.
25. If you were to look at all forms of God (God, God’s, GOD) in the New Testament historical books like the gospels, and the book of Acts, you get a total mention of 490 (which is 70 x 7). New Testament epistles counting all forms of God (God, God’s, GOD) is 777 mentions.
26. God appears 7 times in Revelation 22 (that last chapter of the Bible). The first mention of God in Revelation 22 is the 77th letter of that chapter. The 490th letter of Revelation 22 is the first mention of the Lord in that chapter.
27. Jesus + Christ + Messias = 777 mentions.

All of this is verifiable by his search files that you can check out on his website. More of his discoveries can be found in his book (Which can get the free online version) from his website. https://sealedbytheking.com/ He has another site called https://truthischrist.com/

There are primarily two positions here.

One is either a Bible believer or a Bible corrector.

There's another. I'm sure most here have that one figured out.

A Bibleiver?

Corruption or copy mistakes? This is a cursive manuscript.

If I quote part of a chapter of Matthew from the KJV, is it corrupt or is it still the word of God? It's only part of the whole book; other parts are missing. So using the logic of missing verses wouldn't this quote be corrupt too?

Your walls of text are a cop-out. You C&P so much to hide behind and distract from the MAJOR flaws in you cult like belief system, a common cult tactic. Everyone here is pointing out the utter ridiculousness of these cult beliefs, and you can't just answer the most basic and glaring problems to your position here. It reflects poorly on our King and you don't care, it's cut and paste some more of what you've already said over and over, never once interacting honestly or truthfully with the opposition to your flimsy belief found NOWHERE in scripture. You are so blind and deaf to the red flags all around you, screaming at you that you're wrong, and have no clue you're now in a cult. The way you behave, interact with others, and blindly believe without question is textbook cult behavior. You're being warned yet wont even step back to see if it's true. Sad.

Only because YOU make it a problem and refuse to investigate the reason behind these differences. There are no holes the only error is YOUR false dogma.

So the flaws you "count" are the only ones that matter, so lets hypocritically skip past those and talk about what "you" consider error. Really? I see one of the worst errors I can think of that help send generations down the wrong ecological path to this day in the KJV, in Matthew 24, so don't act like your "errors" are better or more valid that those in the KJV. You just blindly disregard them by waving "minor" in front of error to justify the hypocrisy. So how bout' we talk about this nonsensical view that God will hold us accountable for not using the KJV exclusively.

So it's possible I may or may not have received the answer I was seeking from you, but do I really KNOW it? See the way you answered my question was in a way that was not an answer yet you liked it so much you knew it was in fact not an answer. So based on the totality of our interactions to this point I have surmised that you have some kind of known error in your spirit that prevents you from being able to just type exactly what you believe out plainly. This is too bad because the things of truth do not do that to us. Praise God He give us the boldness to deliver His truth with the clarity and straight forward nature it deserves. So if you feel tap dancing is what He called you to do when dealing with this question, then tap, tap, away.

"People got saved through believing the word of God before King James was born."

So in choosing which bible to study we should ask which translation most faithfully translates those words by which people got saved?

God saved me using the NIV, but also lead me to study the Bible in parallel when that became accessible. Different translations helped me to learn and understand the Bible the best way (for me, anyway - some people might not want to set aside that much time).

I think it isn't so much the translation that's most important. What's most important is that you have God guiding you in Bible study. He wants you to learn to trust Him and His guidance over anything else including choice of Bible translation. Plus it helps build up your fellowship with Him!


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Since every word is important to God, that is a false and misleading statement.

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (Prov 30:5,6) But he [Christ] answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

I have been on various different Christian forums for a long time (2010-2011). I know well enough to recognize when somebody wants to talk about God’s Word (the Bible) in a healthy discussion in seeking the truth vs. just throwing around baseless insults while their minds are closed. One can also say that those who follow flawed Bibles from Westcott and Hort (Nestle and Aland) are a part the Alexandrian cult. But that wouldn’t be nice. Peter Ruckman would say that Textual Critic believers are a part of the Alexandrian cult. I don’t agree with Peter Ruckman’s insulting tactics like this, though. But I am not going to get into mudslinging like he does because our conversation is to be full of grace seasoned with salt (Colossians 4:6).

In other words, if you disagree with the verses I posted, you would need to explain things by Scripture how that is not so.
If you believe Textual Criticism is the more biblical approach, then you would need to present your case with the Bible.

In either case, may the Lord bless you and your family even if you do not want to have any discussion on the finer points I brought up with the Bible and history.

It is well known (among those who have done their homework and who are not brainwashed) that the TR family of manuscripts contains many examples of words added to the text.

So much for your standard of 'purity'.

Praise God! His grace is amazing.
Some KJV-only believers will testify that they were initially saved by a Modern Bible, too.
I believe that a Christian can be saved by God's grace and even holy to a good degree by a Modern Bible.

Again, praise God. I also have had amazing discoveries in God's Word through the use of Modern Translations (Although if a translation differed from the KJV at times, I would of course side with the King James Bible).

I see Modern Bibles like a shattered mirror that was put back together with glue. Some pieces are the true words of God and other pieces are not and they are the words of men. Some pieces are even missing altogether (like 1 John 5:7).

Note: Consider, why would Textual Critics try to hide the fact that they removed this verse? They place some of the words in 1 John 5:8 that say "For there are three that testify:" and put these words in the place of 1 John 5:7. To me, this makes it seem like they do not want to alarm the new reader of the missing verse that teaches about how the Trinity (Godhead) is true.

Anyway, I disagree with KJV-only believers in that they do not believe we can gain any spiritual benefit from Modern Bibles.
I know that they have helped me on numerous occasions in seeing what the KJV was saying because of its archaic wording (Which I believe God chose).

I am Core KJB. The King James Bible is my core foundational text that is without error and perfect but I believe it is a MUST to use Modern Translations and older dictionaries to help flesh out what the KJB says.

Some of my fellow KJB-only brethren will say that the KJB is not that difficult to understand. I disagree with them on this point strongly.
But I still love them in Christ, even if we disagree here.

Jesus talks about jots and tittles. He said not one jot or tittle will pass from the Law until all will be fulfilled. This would be the Law and the prophets. So while the Old Law was fulfilled, the prophets' portion of the "Law and the Prophets" still has yet to be fulfilled. There are prophecies in the Old Testament that speak of the End Times (Which are yet future).

Jots and tittles are like the smallest marks in Hebrew lettering. It would sort of be like the crossing our "t's" and the dotting of our "i's" in English. So if Jesus cares about such small details, then logically it must conclude that there must be a fine-tuned detailed Word in existence today. Granted, keep in mind that Scripture says that God chooses the foolish things of this world to confound the wise. What could be more foolish in people's minds if God chose 1600s English to preserve His words? Well, that is what I believe anyway. You are free to not believe as I do (of course). I would still fellowship with you even if we disagreed on this topic because you understand sin and salvation correctly. Having an accurate understanding of the principles outlined in the Bible on this matter is truly essential and meaningful to me.

May God bless you and your family.

You've been looking in the mirror, I see.

Nobody was ever saved by a modern Bible, nor by the KJV, nor by any other translation or manuscript.

We who are saved were saved by Jesus Christ Himself. Period.

Hopefully you were just careless with your words rather than actually believing what you wrote.

I believe that God's people were able to access His grace and salvation before the Incarnation of Jesus Christ. Yet, when Jesus came, we now follow Jesus in the flesh. 40 verses in the Bible show a symbiotic relationship between Jesus and the Scriptures.