TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!

revelation 12 to 14 is a long lasting battles between a new kingdom on earth which is the Spirit of Jesus living in people and growing, verses a a kingdom of the spirit of Satan living in people.

This kingdom of satan has been losing ground since The victorious day of Jesus.

This is the long lasting kingdom interlude, where Christ's kingdom becomes the kingdoms of the world which includes the the shrinking of Satan's kingdoms.

Revelation 12 to 14 confirms all that, and is a long battle that has been happening since Jesus was victorious.

This is also when Satan started to defile the new temple. Which is confirmed by the fact he is accusing Gods children day and night and defiling there temple day and night.

This is the longest and most difficult kingdoms interlude to understand.

But John hears in rev 12 to 14 that the kingdoms of the world is to become the kingdoms of Christ.

This is the great tribulation. It's been happening since the victorious day of Jesus.

The reason why it's been happening is because Jesus gave people direct acces to his kingdom from the Satan kingdom.

Both kingdoms are now all over the world and as you see there is world wide conflict.

It's not rocket science friend 😊

Romans 11:25-28 is making a distinction between Gentiles and the nation of Israel. Israel in those verses is not all believes. In the prior verss of Romans 11.7....

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

Most of Israel is blinded to the gospel. We seek that today regarding the Jews. Believers are not blind.

So read....

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Utterly baseless unbiblical hogwash.

thanks I'm delighted, 😊

This is the great tribulation. It's been happening since the victorious day of Jesus.

Satan is delighted to sow tares and false doctrine too. So you are in good company.

Except that (as @TheDivineWatermark has pointed out), the Church is NEVER, EVER referred to as the peculiar sons of Jacob. Ever.

And the Church is NEVER seen from Rev 6 thru Rev 18. Gap filled by Israelite preachers. Then it shows up in Rev 19.
The distinction could not be more stark.

And how in the world could you think that the Church is Israel given these passages? Since when was the Church around to partake of the FIRST COVENANT, were children of Israelite patriarchs, and came out of Egypt?

Heb 8:7
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Heb 8:8
For finding fault with THEM (NOT US!), he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Heb 8:9
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

The great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is set up on the temple mount. Matthew 24:15-21.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


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Daniel 12:

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

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The great tribulation is still future. And it will last 1335 days. To end when Jesus returns.

Blinded or not there is only one way in. They may well believe en masses. But it will be done individually through Christ. This is how the ones who weren't blinded entered into grace. In Christ there is no Jew or Greek. Why do you cling to a distinction God no longer recognizes?

Why would they be called that? They are called the sons of God. Same thing, different natural lineage . And yet the same father...Abraham...and same Father...God.

Obviously the lord has tamed your tongue. 😊

Is that supposed to make any sense at all? Because it does not.

Which of course is to be expected of false doctrine.

Blinded or not there is only one way in. They may well believe en masses. But it will be done individually through Christ. This is how the ones who weren't blinded entered into grace. In Christ there is no Jew or Greek. Why do you cling to a distinction God no longer recognizes?

Jesus was speaking to his disciples in Mathew and that generation 😊

In Ezekiel 39 is the framework for end time events to take place during the 7 year 70th week.

Gog/Magog - then the 7 years verses 9-10 - then Armageddon verses 17-20 - Jesus Himself speaking in the text verses 21-29, having returned to this earth.

Satan hasn't. And neither have you.

But, as we know, Rom11:25 says, "blindness [/a hardening] in part is happened to Israel, UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles BE COME IN [G1525]" (not "blindness/ a hardening... to THE CHURCH"... because "Israel" does not equal "the Church" ).

^ Those "on the earth" in Rev7:9-17 (as well as vv.3-8) are not "the Church which is His body" however.

verse 14 explains it better

Which says these are they who came out of great tribulation who have washed there robes with the blood of the lamb 😊