Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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It definitely means that, since there are only these two options. MAGA (Make America Great Again) or the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of America, and the establishment of totalitarianism.

Yes, Donald Trump has made many mistakes, and also sabotaged himself in the past. But there is no one on the right who is his equal. Vivek Ramaswamy is doing an excellent job of exposing the lies and the liars. He does not pull any punches. DeSantis did not need to run (ego), and Haley and Christie are just corrupt politicians.

But Trump has the track record of a generally good presidency, with a lot of blunders. Which is far better than traitor Biden's destructive track record. Also the huge crowds which come to Trump rallies (never reported by the corrupt media) is a clear indication that he has huge support among those who want freedom and justice. Therefore your accusation of "blind followers" shows Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS).
Yeah I think you missed my point or I didn't state it clearly enough, spend some time on Twitter and you will find many people who lack total objectivity and truly believe Trump is a modern day Cyrus appointed by God.

He indeed has many blind followers who know very little about domestic policy, foreign policy and economics and the culture wars for that matter.
I do not care enough to have Trump derangement syndrome, so wrong there.
 

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Yeah I think you missed my point or I didn't state it clearly enough, spend some time on Twitter and you will find many people who lack total objectivity and truly believe Trump is a modern day Cyrus appointed by God.

He indeed has many blind followers who know very little about domestic policy, foreign policy and economics and the culture wars for that matter.
I do not care enough to have Trump derangement syndrome, so wrong there.
When Elon Musk took over Twitter he revealed there were tens of thousands of bots, it is extremely likely if not a guarantee that many of the more cultic Twitter posts were bots involved in a Psy Op.

I went to a Stop the Steal rally and talked to the people, that was eye opening to me that they were intelligent, reasonable and logical in their assessment.

Forming opinions based on Twitter posts is the easiest way to allow yourself to be manipulated.
 

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When Elon Musk took over Twitter he revealed there were tens of thousands of bots, it is extremely likely if not a guarantee that many of the more cultic Twitter posts were bots involved in a Psy Op.

I went to a Stop the Steal rally and talked to the people, that was eye opening to me that they were intelligent, reasonable and logical in their assessment.

Forming opinions based on Twitter posts is the easiest way to allow yourself to be manipulated.
Well this was way before Musk took over Twitter and that was only one point of evidence I have many.

There is always this to be concerned about.....

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He indeed has many blind followers who know very little about domestic policy, foreign policy and economics and the culture wars for that matter.
Let's face it. The general population of any country does not care about any of these issues, other than "economic policy" which basically destroys their purchasing power. And when you send hundreds of billions of dollars to others (which you do not even have so you print paper), and deplete your own treasury, and when you deliberately cause inflation and economic hardship, it means that you are attacking ordinary citizens. And that has been "Bidenomics".

What were gasoline prices (for example) under Trump and what have they been under Biden? According to Forbes the gas prices under Biden on average are $3,60/gallon. But that is not the whole story. As of May, 2023 "The highest prices were California, Hawaii ($4.76), Washington ($4.62), Arizona ($4.60), Nevada ($4.24), Oregon ($4.19) and Utah ($4.08).

Under Trump they were on average $2.57/gallon. That is a 40-70 % increase, and that is because Biden attacked oil and gas activity in the USA and shipped critical oil reserves to enemies. Then he went to Venezuela rather than Canada to save himself. But this move was "outright hostility" to the US industry. That is a part of destroying your own country,
Biden spurns US energy producers, turns to Venezuela for millions of barrels of oil: 'Outright hostility'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-spurns-us-energy-producers-turns-venezuela-oil
 

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politicians shutting down the government......
Sir, may I offer you an alternate, yet more realistic and gritty euphemism for that often abused term?

"shutting down the government" = "derailing the gravy train"

Not gonna happen. Evah.
 

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Sir, may I offer you an alternate, yet more realistic and gritty euphemism for that often abused term?

"shutting down the government" = "derailing the gravy train"

Not gonna happen. Evah.
Try telling Marie Antoinette that.
 

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Well this was way before Musk took over Twitter and that was only one point of evidence I have many.

There is always this to be concerned about.....

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Welp, the thing is, Trump is presently NOT destroying much of anything. In fact the DS is trying their best to destroy HIM.

It is Biden aka "grandpa disaster" aka "the bribable one" aka "the Pinocchio of Delaware" who is fulminating one crisis after another.
In real time.....day in and day out.
 

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Yeah I think you missed my point or I didn't state it clearly enough, spend some time on Twitter and you will find many people who lack total objectivity and truly believe Trump is a modern day Cyrus appointed by God.

He indeed has many blind followers who know very little about domestic policy, foreign policy and economics and the culture wars for that matter.
I do not care enough to have Trump derangement syndrome, so wrong there.
Here you go lady. Find out where and how you went astray and landed into the weeds......

https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/scripture/gen/?sb=oldest
 

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Should the guillotine be re-introduced for the elites today? Something to think about.
I'd settle for stocks. They should be brought out every day and we should be able to throw rotten fruit at them. But we should also bring a preacher with us that they should hear the gospel.
 

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Illegally Entered U.S. Issues Dire Warning About Biden’s Open Borders
The Iranian national told journalist Ben Bergquam in Jacumba, California, that terrorist sleeper cells have likely already exploited the collapsed border and positioned themselves for attacks should a conflict break out with China or Iran.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/watc...ssues-dire-warning-about-bidens-open-borders/


He also went on to say this: The man went on to say that Joe Biden is a clear and present danger not just for the U.S., but for the entire world due to his destructive inflationary spending policies which could trigger a worldwide recession. “If the U.S. falls, everyone falls,” he said.
 

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Should the guillotine be re-introduced for the elites today? Something to think about.
This question reminds me of one of my favorite sights in the year 2023.

This black woman was at a political rally in Chicago complaining that they elected this official to take money from the rich and give it to them and instead he is taking money from them and giving it to illegal aliens.

Everyone considers themselves poor compared to "elites". Problem is to the rest of the world all Americans are "elites".
 

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Something confused me, a few people would claim that I hadn't answered this question. It didn't make sense I had given over 20 different things that Trump could do that were realistic, that would cause me to stop supporting him and yet they refused to acknowledge those saying they were simply pot shots at Biden. That doesn't make sense, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, there are a bunch of would be Republicans who would do those things. But then it just hit me today, what they wanted was something that Trump could do today, before the election. They don't want to know what he could do as President because their goal is to make sure he isn't elected. What they really want is something he could do during the next year that would derail his campaign. However, they were too mealy mouthed and deceitful to speak clearly what they were asking for or who they were working for.

But then I gave three things he could do now: take showers with 11 year old girls (certainly a major issue now with the Epstein downloads), take money from Ukraine oligarchs (certainly a major issue with FTX laundering money for many political campaigns) or have dementia (again plausible since he is 80 or so). I wonder why they ran from those three things.
 

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I dont live in your country but it is beyond me why so many christians worship the guy. No man is going to fix any country. They are all the same, all corrupt in some way. The only time we are going to have someone perfect in charge is when Jesus returns and with the way the earth is heading it's not too far away.
I live in the USA and I haven't met a single Christian who worships Donald Trump. Not sure where you get that idea, unless you're surfing with libertards, then your impression would be explained.
 

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What’s the criteria for being part of the elite? Or is it whoever you decide?
If one is committed to globalism and at the same time destroying humanity (particularly America) and preserving himself/herself for the false religion of Climate Change, that person is one of the elite. Flying around in private jets and polluting the atmosphere while telling the general public to ride on bicycles is another criterion. If one is committed to fear-mongering and destroying freedom through bogus pandemics, that is another criterion.