Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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Polls show 50% of Americans* support Biden

*This poll was taken exclusively from Biden staffers and campaign workers

 

Dude653

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No one has ever accused me of being a trump fan however, removing him from State ballots based on the 14th amendment doesn't really make any sense.
He was impeached on charges of insurrection. It went to court, they lost. So how does it now make any sense for stage to say hey we're going to remove you from the state ballot on the grounds of something that hasn't been established in court that you did?
I will not be voting for The Great orange one but those are my thoughts on the subject
 

Nehemiah6

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Polls show 50% of Americans* support Biden
Polls have mostly been fake, and this one is more fake than any.

Only 33% of the population (as polled) supports Biden, and only 7% of "Republicans" approve of his job performance. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/12/14/assessments-of-joe-biden/

Then again, was the "population" polled truly representative of the entire population? Chances are that a proper nationwide poll would show no more than 10% support for Biden. Even the Blacks and Hispanics are disgusted with his policies.

For large populations 10% of the total is considered reasonable for a proper poll. So what is 10% of 340 million? That would be 34 million. As you can see no one polls even 34,000. So take all polls with a pound of salt. The polls in 2016 showed that Donald Trump would not win in 2016. And then he did. But now fraudulent voting and election theft may come in the way (as in 2020).
 

ZNP

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Polls have mostly been fake, and this one is more fake than any.

Only 33% of the population (as polled) supports Biden, and only 7% of "Republicans" approve of his job performance. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/12/14/assessments-of-joe-biden/

Then again, was the "population" polled truly representative of the entire population? Chances are that a proper nationwide poll would show no more than 10% support for Biden. Even the Blacks and Hispanics are disgusted with his policies.

For large populations 10% of the total is considered reasonable for a proper poll. So what is 10% of 340 million? That would be 34 million. As you can see no one polls even 34,000. So take all polls with a pound of salt. The polls in 2016 showed that Donald Trump would not win in 2016. And then he did. But now fraudulent voting and election theft may come in the way (as in 2020).
You didn't read the fine print, this poll was only of Biden campaign workers and staff, so this is really saying that half of those people no longer support Biden.
 

Nehemiah6

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You didn't read the fine print, this poll was only of Biden campaign workers and staff, so this is really saying that half of those people no longer support Biden.
Actually they are trying to blackmail him into interfering with Israel's response to Hamas. They want him to have Israel shut down everything so that the terrorists can go on terrorizing. This just shows how stupid Democrats have become.
 

ZNP

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Actually they are trying to blackmail him into interfering with Israel's response to Hamas. They want him to have Israel shut down everything so that the terrorists can go on terrorizing. This just shows how stupid Democrats have become.
The hyenas are running the Whitehouse.
 

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The Southern Border Communities Coalition (SBCC) is obviously biased, and have no interest in Texas border security or national security. So they want all barriers torn down.

But Texas became independent from Mexico in 1836 and officially became a state within the USA in 1845. Shortly thereafter, the state could have acquired at least a one mile wide strip of land along the southern border (if there was no private ownership of that land). But if there was, it could have acquired this strip by annexation, applying the principle of eminent domain (with generous compensation). Then there would have been no wrangling with private owners in recent times.

Also Bush promoted a fence along the border, instead of an actual wall. As a result it has never been effective. And Trump also built a fence. How silly was that? Again, the state of Texas could have told Bush to do the right thing. The Great Wall of China was already an example to show how to have a barrier to foreign invaders.
 

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Three more Texas counties declare invasion, bringing total to 50 (msn.com)

All 50 county resolutions cite the invasion clauses of the U.S. Constitution, Articles IV, Section 4, which require the federal government to protect states from an invasion. They also cite Article IV, Section 7 of the Texas Constitution, which states the governor has the legal authority to command Texas military forces and call them up to “suppress insurrection and to repel invasions.”

They also point to the work of Gov. Greg Abbott’s border security mission, Operation Lone Star, whose officers are interdicting the “smuggling of drugs, weapons, and cartel-trafficked people into Texas,” and working to “prevent, detect, and interdict transnational criminal activity between ports of entry.” The Biden administration created the border crisis, county officials argue, with an estimated 10 million people illegally entering the country since 2021. An unprecedented 1.9 million illegal entered Texas in fiscal 2023 alone, The Center Square exclusively reported.

“The invasion is unsustainable and threatens the lives of our citizens,” officials in these counties maintain. They also express support for border counties, adding that their own non-border communities “cannot absorb the socio-economic costs and criminal impact resulting from ... an unsecure and open border.”

When Cude came into office a year ago, he reached out to dozens of judges encouraging their counties to declare an invasion. He also formed a contiguous county coalition to come up with solutions and express support for border counties. Prior to Cude's election, Atascosa County was among the first to issue disaster and invasion declarations.

“Why wouldn’t you declare an invasion?” Cude asked. “If you have people from all over the world coming into your county by bus, plane, or smuggling people and drugs, why wouldn’t you declare an invasion?”

“A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.”

― Ronald Reagan
 

cv5

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Three more Texas counties declare invasion, bringing total to 50 (msn.com)

All 50 county resolutions cite the invasion clauses of the U.S. Constitution, Articles IV, Section 4, which require the federal government to protect states from an invasion. They also cite Article IV, Section 7 of the Texas Constitution, which states the governor has the legal authority to command Texas military forces and call them up to “suppress insurrection and to repel invasions.”

They also point to the work of Gov. Greg Abbott’s border security mission, Operation Lone Star, whose officers are interdicting the “smuggling of drugs, weapons, and cartel-trafficked people into Texas,” and working to “prevent, detect, and interdict transnational criminal activity between ports of entry.” The Biden administration created the border crisis, county officials argue, with an estimated 10 million people illegally entering the country since 2021. An unprecedented 1.9 million illegal entered Texas in fiscal 2023 alone, The Center Square exclusively reported.

“The invasion is unsustainable and threatens the lives of our citizens,” officials in these counties maintain. They also express support for border counties, adding that their own non-border communities “cannot absorb the socio-economic costs and criminal impact resulting from ... an unsecure and open border.”

When Cude came into office a year ago, he reached out to dozens of judges encouraging their counties to declare an invasion. He also formed a contiguous county coalition to come up with solutions and express support for border counties. Prior to Cude's election, Atascosa County was among the first to issue disaster and invasion declarations.

“Why wouldn’t you declare an invasion?” Cude asked. “If you have people from all over the world coming into your county by bus, plane, or smuggling people and drugs, why wouldn’t you declare an invasion?”

“A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.”

― Ronald Reagan
"They also cite Article IV, Section 7 of the Texas Constitution, which states the governor has the legal authority to command Texas military forces and call them up to “suppress insurrection and to repel invasions.”

4 years and still no enforcement. What is going on here?
 

cv5

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Sir, may I offer you an alternate, yet more realistic and gritty euphemism for that often abused term?

"shutting down the government" = "derailing the gravy train"

Not gonna happen. Evah.
Speaker Johnson Announces $1.66 Trillion Bipartisan Package To Avert Shutdown

Nevah gonna happen. Evah.
 

ZNP

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For four days the secretary of defense was incomunicado with the Whitehouse while he was in hospital.

Some people will try and turn this around and blame Biden. They will claim that at a time when we are at war with Yemen, Iran, and Russia that Biden should be in constant communication with the secretary of Defense. But lets not turn this around. This man is in the chain of command for the nuclear response.

Everyone assumes Biden was asleep for the last four days, but that may not be true, maybe Biden called him and just got his voice mail. Perhaps that cocaine we saw at the Whitehouse is only the tip of the iceberg, maybe everyone in the Whitehouse is going off on Cocaine binges and so they simply assumed the Secretary of defense was at some crack house with a bunch of transgender "attaches" with him making another video for Tik Tok.

People are claiming that this violates the written law, what happened was illegal. Really? How can anyone think that the "law" regulates this Whitehouse! This guy got into the Whitehouse with the best fraud department in the history of election fraud. Look at Hunter Biden's laptop, obviously the DOJ ignores laws when it comes to Biden and his Whitehouse.

To those claiming the US was put at risk I would argue we had our best people at all times working, Joe Biden and Lloyd Austin are not our best people, the last people you want at the helm during a crisis is them, so consider that.

So then, what should we do? Pray! Are you nuts, turn to Jesus now and pray! What more do you need to know to realize the people in the Whitehouse are a complete group of incompetents.

Some people are saying he kept in constant communication with the Whitehouse while in the ICU. So was the ICU turned into a Skiff? Did they turn that into a secure communication set up? The doctors, nurses and orderlies, do they have top secret clearance?
 

ZNP

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The secretary of Defense is one of the two people who have authority to launch a nuclear counterstrike, the President and the Secretary of Defense. So don't worry, we still had Biden. Like I said, turn to Jesus, pray, the day of judgment is at hand!

Joe Biden told us the truth, with his administration we will not have someone sending out tweets at 3am, or even authorizing a nuclear counterstrike after 5pm.
 

ZNP

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Everyone who ignored the obvious signs of incompetence when Biden campaigned for President from his basement is responsible for what is coming on the US.
 

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The Southern Border Communities Coalition (SBCC) is obviously biased, and have no interest in Texas border security or national security. So they want all barriers torn down.

But Texas became independent from Mexico in 1836 and officially became a state within the USA in 1845. Shortly thereafter, the state could have acquired at least a one mile wide strip of land along the southern border (if there was no private ownership of that land). But if there was, it could have acquired this strip by annexation, applying the principle of eminent domain (with generous compensation). Then there would have been no wrangling with private owners in recent times.

Also Bush promoted a fence along the border, instead of an actual wall. As a result it has never been effective. And Trump also built a fence. How silly was that? Again, the state of Texas could have told Bush to do the right thing. The Great Wall of China was already an example to show how to have a barrier to foreign invaders.

Yep the SBCC is definitely left of center on the matter but they did do their homework on which administration built what and when. The walls they are building wont ever work, even Trumps section they used power tools and cut thousands of holes in it but it's something to talk about if running for office. Any of the walls wont stop the real threats from coming they just land at our airports unless we pay attention. https://www.borderreport.com/immigr...rump-border-wall-over-3000-times-report-says/ https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/high-ranking-ms-13-fugitive-arrested-terrorism-charges
 

ZNP

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The Democrats are not soft on Crime!


Yes, they let felons out of jail, including violent felons. But they are very hard on people with misdemeanors giving them as much as 20 years.

Sure they don't prosecute the mostly peaceful riots that burned down cities in 2020, but they have been very strict against pastors who stood outside abortion clinics.

Yes, they want felons to be able to vote, but they also want to remove people accused of crimes from the ballot.

So as you can see they are not soft on crime, it all depends on who is committing the crime.
 

ZNP

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Is that guy the same clown who had no idea where his Secretary of Defense was these last four days while N. Korea is firing missiles and seizing an island, while Yemen declares war with the US, and Iran is sending their navy to join the war, and while NATO is fighting with Russia?

I get that his gaffes and stumbling around was funny before, but now it isn't funny, why does anyone still post what this clown says?