The Security Of The Believer

Since there is a high chance the majority of members on the site use the internet alot... There is also a reasonable chance a large proportion of them access adult content. Pornogaphy.

Now if I assume a believer just 'doesnt do this' or loses salvation if they do .. well then I've just condemned a significant amount of members on this chat site.

So the point is ..there is no mark of higher faithfulness that condemns a believer. Jesus pays for it all

So folks can continue watching porn after getting saved and still go to Heaven?

What about continuing in other sins such as rape and child molestation or maybe being a professional hit man?

If salvation can never be lost, then those doing these sins will still go to Heaven then right?

So folks can continue watching porn after getting saved and still go to Heaven?

What about continuing in other sins such as rape and child molestation or maybe being a professional hit man?

If salvation can never be lost, then those doing these sins will still go to Heaven then right?

Ephesians 4:30 states, “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”

So folks can continue watching porn after getting saved and still go to Heaven?

What about continuing in other sins such as rape and child molestation or maybe being a professional hit man?

If salvation can never be lost, then those doing these sins will still go to Heaven then right?

So folks can continue watching porn after getting saved and still go to Heaven?

What about continuing in other sins such as rape and child molestation or maybe being a professional hit man?

If salvation can never be lost, then those doing these sins will still go to Heaven then right?

I want address the accusation that it's teaching a 'license to sin '. This accusation is ignoring the work of the Holy Spirit in prompting His children to go on to faithfulness. He corrects and rebukes.. disciplines.

It is also not recognising the fact that everyone sins, alot, whether intended or not.

Since there is a high chance the majority of members on the site use the internet alot... There is also a reasonable chance a large proportion of them access adult content. Pornogaphy.

Now if I assume a believer just 'doesnt do this' or loses salvation if they do .. well then I've just condemned a significant amount of members on this chat site.

So the point is ..there is no mark of higher faithfulness that condemns a believer. Jesus pays for it all

its interesting to note. People who do this are not really saying we believe in a license to sin, they are condemning certain sins (porn, rape, murder) while giving themselves a license to commit their own sins.

I remember growing up the big three were don’t drink smoke or cuss. If you did these, you certainly would not make it to heaven.

Only to find out later when the hidden things were exposed. These people had their own sins they were hiding and excusing.

Most people who point at another persons sins are hiding their own.

This is correct.

And this is the point. When a person truly becomes born again (from above), having become a new creature (creation), they belong to God. He owns us, bought and paid for with the precious blood of Jesus. A true child of God cannot be un-born again, and he certainly cannot make any decisions about that with which he no longer has rights. He cannot sell himself back to the devil (or sin, or however you want to say it) because he doesn't own himself anymore. God does. Only God could, but He will not because He paid such a high price, and now that He owns the purchased possession, He will keep it and protect it forever. The decision to trust Christ is a one-time only decision, and if truly heart-felt (sincere, genuine), then it is forever.

Like I said before, the child of God has already made the decision (which once made, cannot be un-done).

Wow! Thou I disagree with you (quite strongly, actually) I do like that you are at least honest about what OSAS actually teaches. Very few believers in OSAS will admit that OSAS means that once you decide to believe you now have absolutely no more choice in the matter of salvation/heaven.

For myself, I did make a decision to follow Jesus when I was born again, but I daily rest and lean on Him, and choose to continue believing and following Him. Hallelujah for the Son of God, my Redeemer and my King, and my Friend!

Wow! Thou I disagree with you (quite strongly, actually) I do like that you are at least honest about what OSAS actually teaches. Very few believers in OSAS will admit that OSAS means that once you decide to believe you now have absolutely no more choice in the matter of salvation/heaven.

For myself, I did make a decision to follow Jesus when I was born again, but I daily rest and lean on Him, and choose to continue believing and following Him. Hallelujah for the Son of God, my Redeemer and my King, and my Friend!

Your basic premise is wrong. God doesn't need to remove freewill to maintain a person's salvation anymore than He needs to impart it to initiate salvation.
God accomplishes His will in and through the choices men make.
Why do you believe God must impede people's freewill to maintain their salvation?

I think they just do not understand what people come to christ for.

They think they would want to go back.

The jews wanted to go back to Egypt. Why? They never believed to begin with.

They certainly never came to understand the all-surpassing value of a life with God hid in Christ.

Your basic premise is wrong. God doesn't need to remove freewill to maintain a person's salvation anymore than He needs to impart it to initiate salvation.
God accomplishes His will in and through the choices men make.
Why do you believe God must impede people's freewill to maintain their salvation?

Oh we have a choice

we chose to not go to where we were before.

anone who thinks they would be happier where they were before i have go truly doubt they ever repented to begin with.

who would of free will having been freed from that death and experienced Gods true love would want to go back to that?

No one

Which is why they would even desire to go back.

Egypt was death, Egypt was torture, Egypt was starvation.

This represents what we cam from.

who would of free will having been freed from that death and experienced Gods true love would want to go back to that?

No one